ボストンのMatsuzaka 氏へようこそ。 (Welcome to Boston, Mr. Matsuzaka)

[ChileMass]

Originally Posted by rob56789

Who cares about all these guys lets get clemens back on the yanks

But Clemens wants to play for a winner - he better come back to Boston or re-sign with Houston. The Yanks are destined for 3rd place in '07.........

[JimG.]

$102 million for a Japanese pitcher who has never thrown a major league pitch? Much good luck with that...looking forward to his first bombing in Yankee Stadium.

At least the Yanks had enough sense to bring back Pettite at $16 million...cheap compared to what the Sox did. And he's a proven winner in the regular season and the playoffs.

At least I'll never ever again have to take it seriously when a Bosox fan whines about the Yankees payroll.

[JimG.]

Originally Posted by ChileMass

But Clemens wants to play for a winner - he better come back to Boston or re-sign with Houston. The Yanks are destined for 3rd place in '07.........

Too funny!

I like an optimist.

[Mike P.]

IF YOU CAN BELIEVE the Boston Press (REAL big IF) Clemens is more likely to be in Boston than NY. If they really believe that it gives you option of not over paying for a closer & if it does not work out put Papelbon back in there & have Clemens start.

I agree that Pettite & Mussina are better options than Zito who gets hit hard usaully by NYY & Boston (not with first look but by 5-7th, everyone has seen the 12 to 6 curve) With Sheffield & Ordonez in Detroit, they will have some luck too. Pettite has been pitching against those weaker hitters in the NL the last couple of years, he has to prove he can still pitch in the A league.

[JimG.]

Originally Posted by Mike P.

Pettite has been pitching against those weaker hitters in the NL the last couple of years, he has to prove he can still pitch in the A league.

Mike, Pettite spent the first 10 years of his career in the AL...but you know that.

He has nothing to prove...as I said before, a proven winner in either league.

BTW, Clemens has spent the same amount of time in the NL as Pettite; do you think he has something to prove in the AL too?

There's only one pitcher in this recent conversation who has to prove himself...Matsuzaka.

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Well i have to take Jim's side on this, the only thing going against Clemens or Andy is age, other than that they have proven themselves in big spots, and i said awhile ago i can no longer bitch about the yankees payroll. Jim if he goes say 15-10 id call that a pretty good first season, and id be happy with it..

[2knees]

Originally Posted by JimG.

Mike, Pettite spent the first 10 years of his career in the AL...but you know that.

He has nothing to prove...as I said before, a proven winner in either league.

BTW, Clemens has spent the same amount of time in the NL as Pettite; do you think he has something to prove in the AL too?

There's only one pitcher in this recent conversation who has to prove himself...Matsuzaka.

16 million for a pitcher (pettitte) who got lit up like a christmas tree last year in the N.L. Yes he has a good pedigree but in this "what have you done for me lately" age, Pettitte has to prove last year was a fluke, not the beginning of the end. Not to mention his expanding resume of elbow problems.

[2knees]

as far as Dice K or whatever they call him, i hope to god it pans out. This sort of reeks of desperation to me, but i guess they had to do something. 52 million to the pitcher and 51 mil to the club. lotta money for a guy who could be the next Hideki Irabu. remember that "cant miss"?

[ChileMass]

Originally Posted by JimG.

$102 million for a Japanese pitcher who has never thrown a major league pitch? Much good luck with that...looking forward to his first bombing in Yankee Stadium.

At least the Yanks had enough sense to bring back Pettite at $16 million...cheap compared to what the Sox did. And he's a proven winner in the regular season and the playoffs.

At least I'll never ever again have to take it seriously when a Bosox fan whines about the Yankees payroll.

The new Sox management has to spend like this just to try to win the AL East. If they ever want to get past the Yanks, it's an economic necessity. Yup - the Sox can no longer claim the Yanks are the bad guys for spending money, but you Yankee fans have to admit it sucks to have someone else working what has been your private turf for decades.

As FritoLayGuy pointed out, Pettitte's 3+ years older than the last time he pitched in the AL, and he only won 14 games in the miserable NL last year. Mussina is another year older, Randy Johnson may not make it to the All-Star break, much less thru the season, and Pavano is still hurt. I heard the Yanks may go after Joel Piniero, who at least is under 30, but he's a #4 at best. He was 8-13 for Seattle last year with an ERA of 6.26. As you said - I wish you much good luck with that crew. Meanwhile, the Sox rotation keeps getting younger: Dice-K (26), Beckett (26), Papelbon (24) and Lester (22) plus Schilling at 40.

[JimG.]

Originally Posted by ChileMass

you Yankee fans have to admit it sucks to have someone else working what has been your private turf for decades.

OK with me...maybe the Sox will get stuck with some of the high priced losers I've seen over the years instead of the Yankees.

Originally Posted by Chilemass

As you said - I wish you much good luck with that crew. Meanwhile, the Sox rotation keeps getting younger: Dice-K (26), Beckett (26), Papelbon (24) and Lester (22) plus Schilling at 40.

Ah to wear rose colored glasses! You vilify the Yanks rotation as being old, yet your list has 1 proven starter on it...Schilling at 40 years young. How did he do last season?