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Old Aug 15, 2007, 10:32 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 11:48 AM   #102 (permalink)
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I'm interested in hearing peoples thoughts on this question.

Are people being a hypocrite for saying they won't ski this illegaly cut "trail", but use the illegaly cut trail to get to big jay from jay peak?
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 12:03 PM   #103 (permalink)
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I'm interested in hearing peoples thoughts on this question.

Are people being a hypocrite for saying they won't ski this illegaly cut "trail", but use the illegaly cut trail to get to big jay from jay peak?
Of course they are. It just a matter of how illegal it was to suit there personal wants.
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 12:06 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Does the state even have a case here? Were there witnesses to the actual cutting? Was the finger pointed at these guys just from word of mouth? I hope these individuals were smart enough to keep their mouths shut. What trees were cut where ???
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I hope these individuals were smart enough to keep their mouths shut.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that they aren't all that smart, considering what they did. And for the record, I would like to see these guys get the book thrown at them. Stupid doesn't begin to describe it...
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 12:13 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Are people being a hypocrite for saying they won't ski this illegaly cut "trail", but use the illegaly cut trail to get to big jay from jay peak?
I skin up from the road. I yelled (but not as loudly since I hadn't skied up there then) when the first illegal trail was cut.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/l...jay/index.html
Here's some images of the cut.
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Does the state even have a case here? Were there witnesses to the actual cutting? Was the finger pointed at these guys just from word of mouth? I hope these individuals were smart enough to keep their mouths shut. What trees were cut where ???
I know in NY State if you cut up that high in elevation something like that you would most likely spend time in jail.

There first mistake was cutting on State land. Cutting above 3k is probably going to doom them. That stuff does not grow easily up there.

You ski sugarloaf. Look at the top of that hill. After the fire in the 50's it still has not grown back.
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 1:20 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Are people being a hypocrite for saying they won't ski this illegaly cut "trail", but use the illegaly cut trail to get to big jay from jay peak?
People were hiking out to Big Jay long before Stenger widened the path. Many people called Jay Peak out for that stupidity and rightly so. Should Big Jay skiers now insist on skinning up from 242 in the interest of maintaining some theoretical purity?

There are a thousand other routes down Big Jay than what these yutzes cut. For the forest's sake, it would make sense to use those options.
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BTW, I wouldn't object to skiing along the illegal trail on the ridge because if you want to ski from the ski area you don't have a whole lot of choice in the matter. They cut the trail exactly where the herd path was. So I expect to ski that eventually but would have preferred a herd path.

I think the elevation, size, and visibility of the cut is going to doom these guys. I hope the state makes an example of them in an effort to nip this type of activity in the bud (pardon the pun).
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 2:42 PM   #110 (permalink)
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The real prosecution issue here maybe that if the State DOESN'T do something atleast semi-serious (i.e. big fine or some time behind bars or both instead of just probation and/or community service) then other "knuckleheads" may very well the get idea and do similar cuts in other areas around the state.
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