2007-08 "Resident" Boot Fitter Thread

**Greg** · Aug 13, 2007, 12:08 PM

Jeff Bokum, a Master Bootfitter and board-certified Pedorthist, has again agreed to participate here and answer any questions in regards to boots and boot fitting this season. He will be posting under the username of Skiiboot. In addition to his Pedorthist credentials, Jeff is a Masterfit Instructor and the owner of Profile Orthotic Center at S&W Sports in Concord, New Hampshire. He is also a professional firefighter with the Portsmouth New Hampshire Fire Department with a Level III state certification in firefighting, EMT intermediate certification and Level II Rescue Systems. He has been a ski boot tester with Ski Press magazine since 2002. Please join me in thanking Jeff for continuing to be a valuable source of boot fitting information for the AZ community. This is his third season fielding these types of questions! Feel free to ask boot fitting related questions in this thread.

skibum1321 · Aug 27, 2007, 8:49 AM

I just bought a new pair of Head S13s and they seem to fit great (before actually skiing a day on them anyway). Approximately how much it would cost to go to a boot fitter and get custom footbeds and a fit analysis? In my old X-Waves I had the Superfeet ones that go for ~$30 but I was thinking of splurging and getting custom ones for the new boots.

**ALLSKIING** · Aug 27, 2007, 10:58 AM

Each fitter is different but I think I paid around $150 a few years ago for mine.

Skiiboot · Aug 27, 2007, 9:04 PM

Skibum, You can pay between 150-200$ Remember this is not the place you what to scrimp on, Do your research, and there are good fitters out there, look for ones that know the body and understand the biomachanics. Fitters that have gone to school are taking there craft more serious and will do a better job, You may pay more but you will be much happier with the end result.

Thank you

Jeff

hammer · Sep 11, 2007, 12:38 PM

I just purchased a pair of Salomon 1080 Foil Boots for my son, size 25.5...price was right so I couldn't resist. His street size is an 8 - 8.5 at this point, but the shell fit was OK (1.5 finger width) and I think his feet have a little more growing to do.

The only thing about the boots is that they seem to be pretty roomy in the forefoot...the buckle over the instep can be already buckled beyond the first setting.

Would footbeds help to close this space in at all?

Skiiboot · Sep 12, 2007, 8:20 AM

Hammer,

Footbeds always help, but the footbeds I used will not take up much space. Will have to take up space in other ways.

Jeff

**Greg** · Sep 12, 2007, 9:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammer

the buckle over the instep can be already buckled beyond the first setting.

Interesting concern. My feet are so flat, narrow and low volume (ask Jeff - he's had the pleasure of seeing these works of art!

) that I always have to crank down buckles to almost the second to last notch. My lower calves are thin too so I have even gone to the extent of moving the top buckle to let me get it even more snug. This is after a boot fitting from Jeff once the liners packed out a bit.

My question to Jeff is, is the above something to be concerned with?

trtaylor · Sep 14, 2007, 10:25 PM

Jeff,

Can you speak a little bit about the abducted stance boots (Nordica Aggressor's & Fischer SOMA's)?

Who are they for?
Who are they not for?
Are they necessary?
Other comments?

Thanks.

Tim

Skiiboot · Sep 16, 2007, 9:47 AM

Tim,

Big differance between Nordica and Fisher boots and the abducted stance. Fisher the abduction starts in the heel, and Fisher starts in the midfoot. That alone makes a big difference. The function of the abduction is to apply pressure to the inside of the boot/edge quicker. One problem is that not everybody is abducted and if you place your feet where they aren't happy it can cause problems. One problem that can happen is stress on the MCL. The ideal person for the boot is someone that is abducted and slighty varis forefoot. I think they have there place. I also an a big fan on Nordica and because the boot abduction is from midfoot forward the boots don't hurt me. Fisher is a fantastic boot that is getting better every year, I also like the way they ski, but after a couple of runs the inside of my knees get sore.

Thanks

Jeff

NHpowderhound · Oct 20, 2007, 10:04 AM

Jeff, I am a resort/backcountry guy. I primarily ski powder or natural conditions and tour in the White Mountains.
I stopped by my local ski shop the other day and fell in love with the Scarpa Tornado Pros. I tried them on and was blown away with thier weight. They were like feathers. I was also blown away by the $699 price tag.
Do you have any feedback on these slippers?

((*
*))NHPH

Aug 13, 2007, 12:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
Greg Mad River Glen - 2/8/08 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Thomaston, CT Posts: 18,916	2007-08 "Resident" Boot Fitter Thread Jeff Bokum, a Master Bootfitter and board-certified Pedorthist, has again agreed to participate here and answer any questions in regards to boots and boot fitting this season. He will be posting under the username of Skiiboot. In addition to his Pedorthist credentials, Jeff is a Masterfit Instructor and the owner of Profile Orthotic Center at S&W Sports in Concord, New Hampshire. He is also a professional firefighter with the Portsmouth New Hampshire Fire Department with a Level III state certification in firefighting, EMT intermediate certification and Level II Rescue Systems. He has been a ski boot tester with Ski Press magazine since 2002. Please join me in thanking Jeff for continuing to be a valuable source of boot fitting information for the AZ community. This is his third season fielding these types of questions! Feel free to ask boot fitting related questions in this thread. __________________ Greg 2007-08, 2006-07, 2005-06, 2004-05 Life's too short for warm up runs.

Aug 27, 2007, 8:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
skibum1321 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Malden, MA Posts: 1,349	Custom Footbeds I just bought a new pair of Head S13s and they seem to fit great (before actually skiing a day on them anyway). Approximately how much it would cost to go to a boot fitter and get custom footbeds and a fit analysis? In my old X-Waves I had the Superfeet ones that go for ~$30 but I was thinking of splurging and getting custom ones for the new boots. __________________ Fear should be treated like fire - it's a good thing that can keep you warm but it can also burn down the house

Aug 27, 2007, 10:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
ALLSKIING The Glen Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mattituck, NY Posts: 4,180	Each fitter is different but I think I paid around $150 a few years ago for mine. __________________ Dave 35 days 07/08 Season

Aug 27, 2007, 9:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Skiiboot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Concord NH Posts: 97	Skibum, You can pay between 150-200$ Remember this is not the place you what to scrimp on, Do your research, and there are good fitters out there, look for ones that know the body and understand the biomachanics. Fitters that have gone to school are taking there craft more serious and will do a better job, You may pay more but you will be much happier with the end result. Thank you Jeff __________________ Jeff Bokum, C-Ped Profile Orthotic Center 603-491-4917 Skiiboot@aol.com Click HERE for a printable 10% Off coupon!

Sep 12, 2007, 8:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
Skiiboot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Concord NH Posts: 97	Hammer, Footbeds always help, but the footbeds I used will not take up much space. Will have to take up space in other ways. Jeff __________________ Jeff Bokum, C-Ped Profile Orthotic Center 603-491-4917 Skiiboot@aol.com Click HERE for a printable 10% Off coupon!

Sep 11, 2007, 12:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
hammer Mona Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: at a computer Posts: 2,153	I just purchased a pair of Salomon 1080 Foil Boots for my son, size 25.5...price was right so I couldn't resist. His street size is an 8 - 8.5 at this point, but the shell fit was OK (1.5 finger width) and I think his feet have a little more growing to do. The only thing about the boots is that they seem to be pretty roomy in the forefoot...the buckle over the instep can be already buckled beyond the first setting. Would footbeds help to close this space in at all?

Sep 14, 2007, 10:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
trtaylor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The island of misfit toys. Posts: 252	Jeff, Can you speak a little bit about the abducted stance boots (Nordica Aggressor's & Fischer SOMA's)? Who are they for? Who are they not for? Are they necessary? Other comments? Thanks. Tim __________________ "And if you ski, you are my friend."

Sep 16, 2007, 9:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
Skiiboot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Concord NH Posts: 97	Tim, Big differance between Nordica and Fisher boots and the abducted stance. Fisher the abduction starts in the heel, and Fisher starts in the midfoot. That alone makes a big difference. The function of the abduction is to apply pressure to the inside of the boot/edge quicker. One problem is that not everybody is abducted and if you place your feet where they aren't happy it can cause problems. One problem that can happen is stress on the MCL. The ideal person for the boot is someone that is abducted and slighty varis forefoot. I think they have there place. I also an a big fan on Nordica and because the boot abduction is from midfoot forward the boots don't hurt me. Fisher is a fantastic boot that is getting better every year, I also like the way they ski, but after a couple of runs the inside of my knees get sore. Thanks Jeff __________________ Jeff Bokum, C-Ped Profile Orthotic Center 603-491-4917 Skiiboot@aol.com Click HERE for a printable 10% Off coupon!

Oct 20, 2007, 10:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
NHpowderhound Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Woods at Jay Peak Posts: 495	Scarpa Tornado Pros Jeff, I am a resort/backcountry guy. I primarily ski powder or natural conditions and tour in the White Mountains. I stopped by my local ski shop the other day and fell in love with the Scarpa Tornado Pros. I tried them on and was blown away with thier weight. They were like feathers. I was also blown away by the $699 price tag. Do you have any feedback on these slippers? ((* *))NHPH

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