Mounting Bindings Question

[severine]

Originally Posted by Trekchick

My personal preference is 1 cm back from BOF. Make sure that youre shop knows how to measure contact length, without using the specs/lines on the skis.

Not to be dumb, but what is BOF?

Originally Posted by Trekchick

In the case I had with the Blue House skis I told them I wanted the center mounted for their specific purpose, and though they look like they are mounted forward, they are really not because of what the contact length is on those skis.
I'm rushing now or I'd post a pic, but I think I posted it here somewhere a few weeks ago, and I know I posted it early this morning on Ski Diva.
The twin tip does make a difference.

I saw the pics on epicski (which is why I was secretly hoping you would jump in on this! ).

Originally Posted by Greg

Right. I had my Cabrawlers mis-mounted this fall at this (to remain namesless to protect the innocent) particular shop. You and Brian know where I'm talking about. I asked them to be mounted 1 cm forward. There is a mid-sole line on the ski. They measured to the center point of the ski and went 1 cm forward from that! In their defense, they replaced the ski and got it right the second time around. You need to be very clear about what you want them to do.

That is the exact reason why we are using a new shop this year. Well that and the other person I know of who had a problem there as well. I was thinking 1-2 cm forward from mid-sole point to be conservative but still have a bit of play with the skis' potential capabilities. Though Brian was quick to remind me that you got yours done that way for moguls.

Originally Posted by Grassi21

I've heard the same thing regarding the K2 PE. I was considering pulling the trigger on them but was met with the same criticism as you. Not sure how your boards rate as an all-mountain but the PEs have a decent rep. Ski what you like but accept them for what they are.

Yeah, I'm crazy for buying them without demoing or skiing really in a few years. I know. But I figured for the price, it was worth trying them out. Could be a lot of fun. There is very limited information about these skis online so it really will be a bit of an experiment.

[Greg]

BOF = Ball Of Foot.

[Trekchick]

Severine, if you look at this pic, you'll think that the ski is quite a bit forward of my EOS. I wish I had taken a pic that showed more of the dominant tails on both of these skis. The blue house has a significant "twin tip", so the contact length is more of a consideration. I may regret having them center mounted and wish they were 1 cm back, but that is yet to be seen. I'll be sure to report back when I ski them.

[severine]

And since "ball of foot" didn't mean much to me, I googled it... found a good article I figured I'd link in case anyone else comes up on this and is as clueless as I am.
http://www.techsupportforskiers.com/..._placement.htm

I'm looking forward to the report on how those Bluehouse skis work out!

[Trekchick]

If you look in this pic, you'll see the center mark on my boot lines up with the center mark on the Bluehouse. FWIW, the shop tech said he measured the Contact Length and said the marks on the Bluehouse were accurate on this pair of skis.


Oh, and BOF is Ball of Foot at Center of the contact length.

Edit: I see you found an article that explains that. Good Job!!

[severine]

So...doing a very inexact estimation between 2 sick kids crying out for me (via balancing the ski on mu finger, marking that point, comparing that to BOF, and about where that should fall as far as boot center goes), it looks like (in theory) these should be okay to mount right on the ski marking to get BOF mounting. So instead of screwing around with cm forward or backward, I think I'm going to just tell them to go with BOF since that looks like it should come out about the same to what's marked on the ski anyway.

At least I've learned a lot more about mounting bindings today!

[jack97]

Originally Posted by Trekchick

I may regret having them center mounted and wish they were 1 cm back, but that is yet to be seen. I'll be sure to report back when I ski them.

Women generally have a lower center of mass (com), here's are article which suggest that have the bindings mounted more forward helps for initiating a turn due to biomechanics

http://www.ski-review.com/content/view/92/34/



IMO, getting the forward mount on mogul ski and twin tips is motivated by other factors.

[2knees]

Originally Posted by jack97

IMO, getting the forward mount on mogul ski and twin tips is motivated by other factors.

I had my head mad trix mounted 1 inch forward. no idea why, just cause i've read that i should. Even though its too late, would you mind telling me what the benefit is?

[jack97]

Originally Posted by 2knees

I had my head mad trix mounted 1 inch forward. no idea why, just cause i've read that i should. Even though its too late, would you mind telling me what the benefit is?

I think the main factors are; putting pressure on the front of the ski, thus getting a quicker turn initiation. I think its harder to put this front pressure when the mount is toward the back. The second is aft/fore balance, you can get off the backseat by leveraging from the tail since you have more running surface.


edit: Hey did you try those skis yet?

[2knees]

Originally Posted by jack97

I think the main factors are; putting pressure on the front of the ski, thus getting a quicker turn initiation. I think its harder to put this front pressure when the mount is toward the back. The second is aft/fore balance, you can get off the backseat by leveraging from the tail since you have more running surface.


edit: Hey did you try those skis yet?

thanks jack. I certainly can use some more leverage to help me out of the backseat.

havent tried them yet. hopefully i can get out again in the next week or so.