Help me buy men's skis...

campgottagopee · Nov 28, 2007, 1:16 PM

Holly crap---a lot of mumble jumble in this thread---here's my .02 simply put.....
Buy him something that is in the "all mountain cruiser" catagory. You can't go wrong, I promise. These types of skis are just what the claim to be---good at everything. You can ski bumps, groomers, hard-n-soft snow, trees, steeps etc.
As for height, weight vs. length of ski, well, that's all crap. Just look at World Cup skiers. You've have some seriously big/strong dudes rippin it on 160's, why, well because of how stiff the ski is torsionally. That's what will allow someone who's bigger ski a shorter ski. I'm 6'4", 250 lbs and ski 178's (nordica top-fuel) thats 123-78-108 w/r18. I've skied the nordica world cup doberman slalom ski at 155. Very, very, very stable but you needed to be on edge at all times---not the type of skiing I like to do.
Anyway, hope that helps. Remeber, just look for all-mountain cruiser/expert catagory and you'll be good.

jack97 · Nov 28, 2007, 1:53 PM

damn that was fun. I don't get a chance to talk physical mechanics all the time. It's mostly electro mechanics and statistical analysis.....

Yeah, they got the big boys on short skis, but thats for slalom events. IIRC they will start enforcing a minimum length rule along with sidecut restrictions for that event. For the GS and down hill events they have them longer.

campgottagopee · Nov 28, 2007, 2:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jack97

damn that was fun. I don't get a chance to talk physical mechanics all the time. It's mostly electro mechanics and statistical analysis.....

Yeah, they got the big boys on short skis, but thats for slalom events. IIRC they will start enforcing a minimum length rule along with sidecut restrictions for that event. For the GS and down hill events they have them longer.

Glad you guys were having fun...you guys share slide rules or do each of you have you own

Yes, for GS & DH the skis are much longer because you want them flat and not on edge. Speed baby---it's all about the speed

jack97 · Nov 28, 2007, 2:49 PM

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Originally Posted by campgottagopee

Glad you guys were having fun...you guys share slide rules or do each of you have you own

Sliderules???? It's PCs nowadays, last person who I share my files with.... I ended up marrying her

campgottagopee · Nov 28, 2007, 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jack97

Sliderules???? It's PCs nowadays, last person who I share my files with.... I ended up marrying her

My bad---I should've known

Marc · Nov 29, 2007, 7:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jack97

damn that was fun. I don't get a chance to talk physical mechanics all the time. It's mostly electro mechanics and statistical analysis.....

Anytime you're game I am. It's good to have someone to bounce ideas off of when you're figuring this stuff out.

awf170 · Nov 29, 2007, 8:01 AM

Back to dork conversation:

Marc, how about forward and backwards motion of the skier? (Skiing too far in the backseat or too far forward) If I get way in the backseat my CM is going to be way further back then a skier of the same weight but different height. Thus causing me to have more torque on the ski. Also, when leaning forward, it will make it easier to over-flex the ski. (Though that probably means you would need a stiffer, not longer ski)

**Greg** · Nov 29, 2007, 8:57 AM

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Originally Posted by awf170

Back to dork conversation:

Marc, how about forward and backwards motion of the skier? (Skiing too far in the backseat or too far forward) If I get way in the backseat my CM is going to be way further back then a skier of the same weight but different height. Thus causing me to have more torque on the ski. Also, when leaning forward, it will make it easier to over-flex the ski. (Though that probably means you would need a stiffer, not longer ski)

I was going to bring up fore/aft movement of the skier, but this thread sorta has me frightened.

MRGisevil · Nov 29, 2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg

I was going to bring up fore/aft movement of the skier, but this thread sorta has me frightened.

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Paul · Nov 29, 2007, 11:00 AM

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Jeez, Randi, something about the threads you start that turn into....um....well, they're different....

Nov 28, 2007, 1:16 PM	#41 (permalink)
campgottagopee Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Finger Lakes Region Posts: 762	Holly crap---a lot of mumble jumble in this thread---here's my .02 simply put..... Buy him something that is in the "all mountain cruiser" catagory. You can't go wrong, I promise. These types of skis are just what the claim to be---good at everything. You can ski bumps, groomers, hard-n-soft snow, trees, steeps etc. As for height, weight vs. length of ski, well, that's all crap. Just look at World Cup skiers. You've have some seriously big/strong dudes rippin it on 160's, why, well because of how stiff the ski is torsionally. That's what will allow someone who's bigger ski a shorter ski. I'm 6'4", 250 lbs and ski 178's (nordica top-fuel) thats 123-78-108 w/r18. I've skied the nordica world cup doberman slalom ski at 155. Very, very, very stable but you needed to be on edge at all times---not the type of skiing I like to do. Anyway, hope that helps. Remeber, just look for all-mountain cruiser/expert catagory and you'll be good. __________________ YOU WANNA SEE BIG AIR KID, PULL MY FINGER "OLD GUYS RULE"

Nov 29, 2007, 8:01 AM	#47 (permalink)
awf170 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lynn and Lowell MA Posts: 3,651	Back to dork conversation: Marc, how about forward and backwards motion of the skier? (Skiing too far in the backseat or too far forward) If I get way in the backseat my CM is going to be way further back then a skier of the same weight but different height. Thus causing me to have more torque on the ski. Also, when leaning forward, it will make it easier to over-flex the ski. (Though that probably means you would need a stiffer, not longer ski) __________________ -Austin

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Nov 28, 2007, 1:53 PM	#42 (permalink)
jack97 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,149	damn that was fun. I don't get a chance to talk physical mechanics all the time. It's mostly electro mechanics and statistical analysis..... Yeah, they got the big boys on short skis, but thats for slalom events. IIRC they will start enforcing a minimum length rule along with sidecut restrictions for that event. For the GS and down hill events they have them longer.