Interested in an AlpineZone.com window decal? II

[Greg]

Based onthe feedback in this thread, I'm going to redo this to see if there's more interest:

I'm working with a vinyl lettering/logo provider to get an AlpineZone.com window decal to install on the rear window of my Jeep. Based on the quality of the product, I'm hoping to offer it to forum members and site visitors. The decal will be approximately 14" wide and 2" tall. It will look identical to the logo in the top left corner of the AZ Web site. The only difference is the top portion of the peak icon will be white, as will be the lettering. The bottom portion of the peak icon will be a very similar blue.

The cost for the decal will be about $7 each. I don't plan to make any money on these (I may even lose some), but that's a fair trade-off for the exposure. I'm hoping it will look great on dark tinted window glass, ski/snowboard cargo boxes, etc. I'll post the proof once I get it. I will also post some pics of the final product and the installation process once I receive mine.

Would this interest you? Please participate in this poll and provide any additional feedback in this thread. Thanks!

[MtnMagic]

21" or 14" is still way too big. You must mean its a bumber sticker. A 3"x3" seems to me to be just the right size. I can see people using this size because it saves space and they can see out their windows. Its about the size of many other stickers. Also it is within the law, no obstructions!
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Yes, A-Z needs a reasonable size sticker with the logo.

[uphillklimber]

Greg, I declined to comment on the first poll you posted (can you imagine that?) Basically, the costs of the stickers are too much, IMO. When I look at stickers, I expect them to be a couple dollars and shudder if they reach $4.00.

Don't get me wrong, I would gladly advertise for Alpinezone, in a minute. Thing is, I don't do stickers on my vehicles.....pretty much. They become permanent real fast. I did put a flag on the rear driver's side cab window, and I have a small (2-1/2" by 4") oval hikers logo on the cap window (up front on the drivers side). These areas are where I basically will not be looking through at almost anytime I am operating my vehicle. I am the kind of guy who will completely scrape the windows of my vehicle, if I am going to do them at all, which means the more stickers on the outside, the more careful I have to be not to damage the sticker.

I feel very patriotic, so I will display a flag on my vehicle. I also love hiking, so I'll put that logo on it. I love skiing, and will put that logo on it also, if I can find an appropriately sized one. Appropriate is a relative term, I understand. Our Thule ski box, for example has a bunch of ski area stickers all over it, maybe a dozen. But these are the Sugarloaf triangle, Sunday River Diamond, Cranmore penguin, Wildcat diamond with a claw, etc..... A rectangular bumper sticker would be out of place with those stickers. and the size suggested would be to big.

This idea just came into my head: How about something similar to Sugarloafs triangle? Use the Alpinezone mountain peak, with it's three peaks and current coloring (so as not to infringe upon Sugarloafs logo), and print Alpinzone.com right across the bottom of the mountain? That could earn it a prestigious mounting location upon our Thule ski box, as well as, quite possibly, a location on our rear driver's side windows.

[Greg]

Thanks for the feedback. Let me clarify a few thing based on the comments in this and the original thread:

1. This is not a bumper sticker. They are custom individual letters/logo that should result in a professional looking installation. There will be no visible seams or sticker border. The characters are pre-positioned on a backing paper.
2. It doesn't have to be installed as a window decal. However, I, like many of you, am not a big proponent of putting stickers on my car's paint. I don't even let the dealerships put their dealer stickers on new cars when I buy them. I have at times put stickers on my windows though as they are easy to remove. I'm under the impression that this decal is a semi-permanent installation and may be tough to remove from a car's body/bumper. However, removal from a window should take nothing more than a razor blade and a hairdryer.
3. Regarding the size: Does a decal with 2" high letters really impair visibility? It doesn't seem much bigger than many of those university stickers folks install on their rear windows. Also, remember, they're individual letters so you'll be able to see around the letters and peak icon. I don't expect visibility to be a problem. I think a 2" letter height is really the minimum for it to be legible while travelling.

I'll post pics of this once I install mine so maybe people will have an easier time visualizing how it will look then.

UHK - I've played with a design like you suggested. However, I feel the AZ peak icon is already a bit Sugarloaf-esque as it is. Putting the text below it would really make it look like a rip-off. The design as it is on the Web site simply results in a 14" wide decal when using 2" high letters.

Perhaps there won't be much interest in this, but I'm going to proceed with it anyway. Even if don't get enough interest to meet the minimum for the bulk price, I'll still offer them for $7 to anyone that wants one...

[uphillklimber]

Somehow, I didn't realize it was a clear backing, like the college stickers. That changes things IMO. Now, do these kind of stickers mount inside or outside (never had one or looked at a college sticker real good before).

I just may be interested in one of those.....

[Greg]

Originally Posted by uphillklimber

Somehow, I didn't realize it was a clear backing, like the college stickers.

Even a "clear backing" is not a good description. There really is no backing. I'm under the impression it's sixteen individual vinyl decals; thirteen letters, a period, and two graphics to make up the peak icon. They are arranged on a backing paper to allow for easy positioning and installation.

[Charlie Schuessler]

How about you put a sample on your auto, take a picture and post it....

[Greg]

Originally Posted by Charlie Schuessler

How about you put a sample on your auto, take a picture and post it....

Yes. I plan to.

[teachski]

I still think it is a little big, though I like that better than the thought of it being a bumper sticker. I am wondering if you could get pressure sensitive stuff that does not affix to the window permenantly. I guess the best way to describe this would be to compare it to the color-forms one might have played with as a kid. I have a couple logos for the car like that.

[smitty77]

Originally Posted by Greg

Even a "clear backing" is not a good description. There really is no backing. I'm under the impression it's sixteen individual vinyl decals; thirteen letters, a period, and two graphics to make up the peak icon. They are arranged on a backing paper to allow for easy positioning and installation.

These are very similar to the "lettering" one would see on most commercial vehicles. Not many sign places use paint to letter a truck anymore. It's too slow and too inconsistent. As Greg said, they're individual vinyl letters prearranged on a "wax paper" backing, there's nothing between them. Our company letters all of their pickups this way, right on the paint, and from what I've heard a special buffing pad attached to a random orbit buffer will take these right off without harming the paint finish. (They "de-letter" everything before it's sold or junked.) Removing them from glass will just require some careful scraping with a sharp razor blade. IMHO, it's the most professional looking type of advertisement.

UHK, those university stickers are a great because they're reverse printed and stick to the inside of the windows. They also come off easily with a razor blade. The problem with them is they're all but invisible behind even factory tinted glass, and it's real easy to trap air bubbles under them. The method Greg is looking into is almost foolproof and looks great as long as you take the time to make sure everything is level before you press the adhesive side of the letters down.

Greg, I voted yes but would like to ammend my choice by stating I would buy two 1" high by 7" long decals for 7 or 8 bucks. I'd like to stick two of these on each of the side rear vindows of the PT Cruiser, but the windows are too small for the 14" variety.