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Can you "own" a line cut at the area?


What are you doing skiing the trees by yourself? See another reason not to go in alone...

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Old Dec 21, 2007, 12:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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What are you doing skiing the trees by yourself?

See another reason not to go in alone
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Had a similar thing happen to me and couple pals few years back. Didn't make a big deal about it at the time, but after the next dump we skied "his" stash and this time took some bright red surveys tape and flagged the entire thing for all to see. The dude knew who did it and boy was he friggin pissed. We laughed or areses off tha night in the bar listening to all these peeps talk about what a great "stash" they found.
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 4:50 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Sounds like the dude did not plan out a well hidden entrance and exit to "his" line. No one owns anything. If I know a line is super secret and hush hush and I know who cut the line, I will wait off until the end of the day to sample the goods out of respect for the creative mastermind. But once something is well known and especially if the entrance and exit are obvious, all bets are off. If I see a line I like, I am going to take it. Period. Hypothetically speaking, if someone were to ski "my line" I would ask them how it was and if they enjoyed it and ask for help in keeping it quiet.
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 5:37 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You're lucky he didn't shoot you! He would have been well within his rights!
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 6:22 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Sounds like the dude did not plan out a well hidden entrance and exit to "his" line. No one owns anything. If I know a line is super secret and hush hush and I know who cut the line, I will wait off until the end of the day to sample the goods out of respect for the creative mastermind. But once something is well known and especially if the entrance and exit are obvious, all bets are off. If I see a line I like, I am going to take it. Period. Hypothetically speaking, if someone were to ski "my line" I would ask them how it was and if they enjoyed it and ask for help in keeping it quiet.
Well said Steve!!

If I'm out in the woods searching around without prior knowledge and happen to come across a nice line, you bet your *ss I'm going to ski it!!!!!!
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 7:51 PM   #26 (permalink)
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"my line" on public land, go figure!!! I sure hope I don't stumble upon a "private line"when I'm snoopin around in the woods, maybe they should put up a no tresspassing sign!
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Old Dec 22, 2007, 11:11 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Maybe he was just mad cuz you skied it better than he did?
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Old Dec 22, 2007, 6:30 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Sounds like no one who has responded has ever helped clean a line of their own. He took a major risk and now you are just along for the free ride. Give the guy some slack. I've heard of beatdowns for people who've have shown other people lines at Stowe. By the way, you are tacitly approving of illegal line cutting by skiing the routes.

This is one more reason we need to organize and legitimize the practice of clearing tree runs. No one should feel so much ownership of public land that they want to yell at somebody for skiing in the woods.

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Old Dec 22, 2007, 7:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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John. I actually have, just not at the area . Problem with that line is no lifts serve it so I can never get any skiers to come out and ski it. I try to show everyone. There are lots of people at the hill that share what they create, some feel it's their right to try and control other people with their attitude. I say hide it better, but If I'm stuck in hellacious bushwack and find a line, I'm gonna ski it. And I'm gonna remember where it was and add it to my list. It's sort of crazy to think that you can trim woods at a lift served area on public land get pissed when people who have found it completely on their own ski it. Don't ya think?
I completely agree that in the future ski areas need to consult forresters and biologists to identify rare species and delicate habitat so impact is as low as possible. Just like the climbing community/VTCrag and IMBA/VMBA are doing. The writing is on the wall for everyone to smarten up.....or move away from areas like Big J and the Notch which are so heavily impacted allready. What's the scene at the Bush? Slide Brook seeing lots of action? Important bear habitat, yes? MRG woods are really trimmed and that's prime Bicknell's Thrush territory. Seems like a threshold has been reached. It's unfortunate.
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Sounds like no one who has responded has ever helped clean a line of their own. He took a major risk and now you are just along for the free ride. Give the guy some slack. I've heard of beatdowns for people who've have shown other people lines at Stowe. By the way, you are tacitly approving of illegal line cutting by skiing the routes.

This is one more reason we need to organize and legitimize the practice of clearing tree runs. No one should feel so much ownership of public land that they want to yell at somebody for skiing in the woods.

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I don't buy that kind of attitude. That may fly in surfing, but this is public land mostly. I will seek and ski any line I can find and not for one second feel bad about it. I will show these lines to whoever I'm with. Territorial pissing? are we dogs?
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