Auto tires for winter driving

[Greg]

Originally Posted by tjf67

Speaking of bumps I was out the last couple on nights on wilderness building bumps for the competitions comming to town. I think you call it seeding. You should come up and try them out might be a little steeper than you are used to.

I'm sure. I do suck at steep bumps. Working on it though. Are you competing?

[tjf67]

Originally Posted by Greg

I'm sure. I do suck at steep bumps. Working on it though. Are you competing?

In January, the scene changes to Whiteface and the Olympic Jumping Complex for three freestyle skiing events scheduled for Jan. 18-20. The International Ski Federation as well as the U.S. Ski and Snowboard Association will conduct World Cup moguls on the Wilderness trail at Whiteface Jan. 18 and 20, while aerial skiing will occur on Jan. 19 at the jumping site in Lake Placid.

I think not.

[Greg]

Originally Posted by tjf67

I think not.

Oh. My bad. You speak with such authority on things, I assumed you were a pro. Sorry about that.

[tjf67]

Originally Posted by Greg

Oh. My bad. You speak with such authority on things, I assumed you were a pro. Sorry about that.

What you take as authority is probably just bad grammer. T
Lighten up francis

[mlctvt]

Originally Posted by tjf67

Dont snow tires perform horrible on dry pavement?

Not al of them. I recently installed a set of performance Dunlop wintersport M3 snow tires on my Legacy GT and they handle better than the crappy Bridgestone RE92s all-seasons that the car came with. This wasn't due to age either, the Bridgestones only had 6000 miles on them. Granted with the "performance" snows you give up a little in the deep snow but they're much better on dry roads.

[koreshot]

Originally Posted by tjf67

Dont snow tires perform horrible on dry pavement?

Most snow tires do suck on dry pavement. This particularly the case for the heavy duty deep snow ones. The blizzaks I have on right now certainly suck in the dry, livable but not very good. But I have tried the Dunlop M3 and been really impressed with its dry pavement performance while still being very sure footed in snow. Performance winter tires as pretty solid in the dry generally speaking.

Been hearing excellent things about the snow performance for the Conti Extreme contact. A good compromise all season. Will never be as good as a dedicate snow tire, but good middle ground.

Originally Posted by Marc

Kore gets the same thing whenever he opens a thread about bump skiing.

Amen. Although I do appreciate the skill involved.

Its like watching knitting... takes mad skill but boring as hell to watch.

[Greg]

Originally Posted by koreshot

Its like watching knitting... takes mad skill but boring as hell to watch.

Okay. Now you crossed the line.

Boring as hell to watch?



Of course, that's not, nor ever will be representative of anyone that would ever appear in any of my cheesy little vids...



Back to your boring tire discussion...

[koreshot]

Originally Posted by Greg

Okay. Now you crossed the line.

Boring as hell to watch?



Of course, that's not, nor ever will be representative of anyone that would ever appear in any of my cheesy little vids...



Back to your boring tire discussion...

Ok, that was pretty cool and probably is more fun than knitting. I think those awesome airs were a big reason for that though... especially the second one. Is it me or was that guy not spending a whole lot of time with his ski touching the snow? I thought the basic principle of proper bump skiing is good ski to snow contact at all times.


Edit: nevermind. I watched it a few more times and actually there seems to be a lot of contact.

[SKIQUATTRO]

I have the ContiExtremes on my Audi and they are fantastic...keep em on all year..next best thing to a dedicated snow tire...great dry traction (sucks to corners like glue) great in the rain....very happy with them .... this is my 2nd pair on the Audi

[deadheadskier]

Originally Posted by WJenness

I'm not going to get into the tires debate other than to say this is my first winter with AWD (bought an 2004 A4 3.0Q M6 in May) and thus far, I love it...

But I am going to observe... From an A6 to a Hyundai Sonata? Ouch... I'm sorry man.

I can't see myself buying a non-Audi at this point.

I'm a fanboy... I admit it.

-w

No ouch at all. There are luxories in the Audi I certainly miss, but overall, I'll take the 2007 Sonata over the 2000 A6 anyday. I'll give the Audi the edge in handling, but the Hyundai absolutely SMOKES the Audi in terms of off the line acceleration or passing speed, gets a solid 8 mpg better and is more spacious.

Now, I'd certainly take a 2007 Audi over the 2007 Sonata, perhaps even a 2004 Audi as well. That all said, I can't afford a fifty thousand dollar car, which is what a new A6 runs. Hell a 2004 A6 with 50K miles on it probably would've cost more than the Sonata new.

The big thing for me was value. I wanted a new car with a solid reputation that I wasn't going to have to worry about for a long time. The 10 year, 100K warranty did it for me. I tested a Camry, Accord, Altima and the Sonata. The Hyundai easily performed as well as the others and was four grand cheaper for the same features.

Audi's horrendous reputation for service issues after 100K miles lead me away from the brand. Last October, I had 92,000 miles on it when ding, air bag light goes on and I hit a curb with a tire all in the same week. I take it in and after the Audi dealership charges me $150 to diagnose the problem, I'm not it will be $1400 to replace the air bag computer, $650 for new tires AND I needed the control arms replaced, which was another $400. $2450

Any of that crap (aside from tires) happens now, it's covered.

Audi is a great car, don't get me wrong, but they along with all other German vehicles are for rich people, which isn't me.

I'm sure I'll get an AWD car again, but it will be a Subaru when I do.