The Official "Ughh" Thread

[KingM]

Originally Posted by billski

That assessment summarizes all of VT at this point. All areas received about 0.9 inches of rain on Friday. It has been lightly snowing from Montpelier and north since about 3AM, but that inch or two isn't gonna fix things.

I disagree. It's definitely a net gain of a few inches.

[KingM]

Here's the official word after shoveling off my decks this morning and having the plow guy come and clear up the parking lot.

We started with all snow, then went to tiny, sand-like ice pellets. There was some more snow which transitioned to some freezing rain last night. It is currently snowing very lightly.

Shoveling the couple of inches of snow this morning (I shoveled an inch or two of lighter stuff last night) was very heavy, back-breaking work. It wasn't so saturated, however, that it wouldn't break up and its definitely all frozen now. The groomers should do really nice. Skiing in the woods or on ungroomed trails will be a challenge IMHO.

It's still a net gain, given that we haven't had any big dumps in the last couple of weeks.

[riverc0il]

Originally Posted by KingM

It's still a net gain, given that we haven't had any big dumps in the last couple of weeks.

If natural snow trails and woods are not skiable, it is not a net gain, IMO. I would rather loose some snow and have all trails open than need to wait for another foot of snow to open trails back up again. Net gain of total snowfall perhaps, but the reports coming in from the reports look pretty nasty. Dare I say that Jay gets the award for being the most honest? Yesterday and today's reports were very rank and also funny.

[KingM]

Originally Posted by riverc0il

If natural snow trails and woods are not skiable, it is not a net gain, IMO. I would rather loose some snow and have all trails open than need to wait for another foot of snow to open trails back up again.

I didn't say they weren't skiable, but that they would be a challenge.

Net gain of total snowfall perhaps, but the reports coming in from the reports look pretty nasty. Dare I say that Jay gets the award for being the most honest? Yesterday and today's reports were very rank and also funny.

I'm really not trying to spin this, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as everyone is fearing, at least in the MRV. Here is what Sugarbush and Mad River say today:

Sugarbush:

We've still got a few flurries coming down this morning. I just talked to Patrol and they are saying that since yesterday we've recieved 8 inches of new snow! Though we did get some wet stuff last night, the snow held up great and they're saying that it is already skiing nicely this morning. Today there is a chance for flurries most of the day and the temperatures are going to be in the mid 20s again.

MRG:

The storm continues to rage this morning with some gusty winds. We have picked up a good 3-4" of ideal Mad River Glen snow. We did see some sleet/grapple mixed with the snow overnight and it has a kind of "sandy" consistency to it. We have received exactly the kind of snow we need to hopefully re-open the whole enchilada as this snow stuck to everything very nicely and is clinging nicely to our slopes. There is a tad more snow in the forecast for today so it looks like we'll have some real nice "surfy" skiing for the big Super Bowl Weekend!

[JPTracker]

Originally Posted by riverc0il

If natural snow trails and woods are not skiable, it is not a net gain, IMO. I would rather loose some snow and have all trails open than need to wait for another foot of snow to open trails back up again. Net gain of total snowfall perhaps, but the reports coming in from the reports look pretty nasty. Dare I say that Jay gets the award for being the most honest? Yesterday and today's reports were very rank and also funny.

Jays Snow Report

**Winter Storm Warning in Effect**

Ok, so this is the deal. Heavy snow yesterday morning for several hours before turning toward mixed precipitation in the afternoon then to freezing rain as we approached supper time. It seems that it did flip to all rain for a period between midnight and 1:30am or so, but then stopped before turning back to heavy snow around 4:45am. Heavy snow is still with us here at 6:30am.

Should I come you ask? Well, you need to be your own skier, your own snowboarder today but I will say the following: The wind is blowing hard enough, right now, to keep most upper mountain lifts on delay out of the gate and forecasters aren't calling for them to slow down any time soon--maybe by late morning. Surface conditions, where the groomers have made a pass or two, will be ok but the woods will be titanium. That's, to say, firm.

If you plan on heading to the mountain today, please check back to this area as the snowphones are updated at 8am and 4pm, approximately, only.

If you're headed to the mtn today, despite the less than stellar set up, let me be the first to say, way-to-go.

[ALLSKIING]

Originally Posted by billski

That assessment summarizes all of VT at this point. All areas received about 0.9 inches of rain on Friday. It has been lightly snowing from Montpelier and north since about 3AM, but that inch or two isn't gonna fix things. Today's the day the groomers earn their keep, after the water drains.

I'm still planning on getting out Sunday (since more rain may be on the way midweek next). No decision on destination until this evening's reports, but I suspect I'll be one of the few people with reports on Sunday. While I don't plan on skiing well, I would expect I'll be skiing FAST.

It rained in torrents in Eastern Mass. yesterday afternoon. I expect Wa-wa snowpack has suffered greatly.

This is just not true. At Killington things never got wet. Infact between snow and sleet we picked up around 7 inches. Sugar snow for today, conditions are great on the hill.

[riverc0il]

That sound have said Jay's reports were very "frank" not "rank" but that was an ironic slip. The report yesterday ended with something along the lines of "becareful if you are driving up tonight, you nut" or something like that. Nut was not the exact word or phrase used but you get the point.

[bobbutts]

My report of sleet and then glaze is just for my back yard, right near Concord NH in the lowlands. I don't think as much liquid fell in many places above and north of here.

[reefer]

Originally Posted by ALLSKIING

This is just not true. At Killington things never got wet. Infact between snow and sleet we picked up around 7 inches. Sugar snow for today, conditions are great on the hill.

Thanks Dave, keep us posted. K is on the radar for tomorrow...................still surfing

[riverc0il]

Originally Posted by bobbutts

My report of sleet and then glaze is just for my back yard, right near Concord NH in the lowlands. I don't think as much liquid fell in many places above and north of here.

Nasty mix here in Ashland/Plymouth. Not sure if it ever changed over completely to rain but S reported a two hour drive between Concord and Ashland heading home last night with a half dozen accidents minimum including three complete flips. She did 30 the entire drive home on I-93. Roads were terrible. Mountains with good grooming will be the way to go this weekend.