Pedro Martinez controversy

[jack97]

Originally Posted by ComeBackMudPuddles

How is this a question of "USA morals" and "political correctness"?

In the context of the first post.

Originally Posted by deadheadskier

The Humane Society is outraged (I agree) and is demanding an apology from Pedro and for him to condemn the 'sport'

Pedro does not need to apologize for doing something that is legal and culturally acceptable in his country. However, if he does in this the US, its another matter.

In terms of explaining this children, there are plenty of examples where laws and cultures of other countries are so foreign to us that it is sometime unacceptable from our point of view. IMO, understanding that there differences and how they came to be is the first step.

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

OK, well, I think one thing we can all agree on is that Chicken McNuggets are delicious. I prefer mine with sweet 'n sour sauce.

[ctenidae]

Originally Posted by ComeBackMudPuddles

OK, well, I think one thing we can all agree on is that Chicken McNuggets are delicious. I prefer mine with sweet 'n sour sauce.

Much like TV dinners and fish sticks, I find that McNuggets are much better in the memory than they are in reality. I'm always dissapointed when I eat them, and a little bit of my childhood dies. It's like watching D&D or Transformers cartoons. I don't want to know how bad they really were. They were an integral part of my childhood, and I'd like to keep them that way.

Cockfighting and baseball, on the other hand were not so important to my childhood, so to both of them I give a healthy dose of "Meh"

[jack97]

Originally Posted by ComeBackMudPuddles

OK, well, I think one thing we can all agree on is that Chicken McNuggets are delicious. I prefer mine with sweet 'n sour sauce.

After reading Fast Food Nation by Schlosser, I've stayed away from McD, its' been about three years since I eaten a meal in one of the places.

In terms of what they are doing with our nation's children, the eating habits they promote and the obesity problems we will inherit is a crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Food_Nation

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

Originally Posted by ctenidae

Much like TV dinners and fish sticks, I find that McNuggets are much better in the memory than they are in reality. I'm always dissapointed when I eat them, and a little bit of my childhood dies. It's like watching D&D or Transformers cartoons. I don't want to know how bad they really were. They were an integral part of my childhood, and I'd like to keep them that way.

Cockfighting and baseball, on the other hand were not so important to my childhood, so to both of them I give a healthy dose of "Meh"

You managed to diss McNuggets, the original Transformers cartoons and baseball all in one post?

I'd like to toss you in a ring against an angry cock. That'll learn ya!

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

Originally Posted by ctenidae

Much like TV dinners and fish sticks, I find that McNuggets are much better in the memory than they are in reality. I'm always dissapointed when I eat them, and a little bit of my childhood dies. It's like watching D&D or Transformers cartoons. I don't want to know how bad they really were. They were an integral part of my childhood, and I'd like to keep them that way.

Cockfighting and baseball, on the other hand were not so important to my childhood, so to both of them I give a healthy dose of "Meh"

Originally Posted by jack97

After reading Fast Food Nation by Schlosser, I've stayed away from McD, its' been about three years since I eaten a meal in one of the places.

In terms of what they are doing with our nation's children, the eating habits they promote and the obesity problems we will inherit is a crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Food_Nation

Guys, I was just trying to find us some common ground that we could agree on to get some positive vibes going....

Let me try again....

If there's one thing we can agree on, it's that little puppies are adorable!!

[Paul]

Originally Posted by ComeBackMudPuddles

I'm a Yankee fan, so I'm obviously enjoying this whole controversy. But, unlike Bean-o, I don't hate Pedro. I know we owned the punk by the end....

What? Are you from some lost Mayan tribe who's calendar ends in 2003?

[jack97]

Being negative or contentious is fun......


Damn, can't say anything bad about pups.

[ctenidae]

Originally Posted by ComeBackMudPuddles

You managed to diss McNuggets, the original Transformers cartoons and baseball all in one post?

I'd like to toss you in a ring against an angry cock. That'll learn ya!

I got the D&D cartoon in there, too. Don't forget that one.

I will say, though, that chicken pot pies continue to be exactly as tasty as I remember them. Especially when the crust on the bottom gets good and gooey.

[deadheadskier]

Originally Posted by jack97

BTW, after what I heard and seen done to calfs, I don't eat veal, haven't for over 15 years.

You sir, have drank the coolaide and are entirely misinformed about how veal is raised as it is no less humane than calfs raised for beef. You might as well give up eating beef to then as calfs raised for veal production have equally as good of a life as calfs raised for beef if not better.

The only difference between the two is their diet and length of life. I sell veal, amongst many other kinds of meat for a living and the animals are treated like gold. They aren't cooped up in a restrictive pen like most people are lead to believe. These calfs are raised in group pens with room to roam, 24 hour access to to the outdoors, food and water. 90% of their diet is milk, which for the first ten weeks comes direct from their mother, same as any calf raised for beef. At ten weeks, the calves are too large for their mother to support their diets, so at this point they switch to an automated feeder. The other 10% of their diet is grain to help aide in digestion. If you find veal that is more pink in color instead of white, it just means a higher percentage of grain in their diet. Why this is done? One reason, Milk cost a helluva a lot more than grain.

For ten weeks a veal calf is essentially afforeded the same life as a beef calf. The second ten the diet is different, but perfectly healthy. Honestly the only major difference between veal and beef is tht veal calfes are processed at 20 weeks where as beef calfes get to live to the ripe old age of 20 months.