Race Ski Sizing and turn Radius Questions

[Hawkshot99]

Originally Posted by deadheadskier

Hawkshot might have a good call in the mutix. My only concern in a race ski however is that they have a very solid core, preferably wood, so that they don't break down quickly. I'm less concerned with that happening on the B2's due the conditions I am generally looking to ski with them.

Mutix is a foam core ski. On breakdown speed I have no idea how they last. I only have around 20 days on mine as they share skiing duties with other sets of skis. Plus I try not to use them, as the make me ski at ridiculous speeds.

[deadheadskier]

Originally Posted by Hawkshot99

Mutix is a foam core ski. On breakdown speed I have no idea how they last. I only have around 20 days on mine as they share skiing duties with other sets of skis. Plus I try not to use them, as the make me ski at ridiculous speeds.

what's your opinion on them on boiler plate? cut right in, minimal chatter?

[Hawkshot99]

Originally Posted by deadheadskier

what's your opinion on them on boiler plate? cut right in, minimal chatter?

On real hard snow, the bite in as hard as anything I have skied. If they don't bite, most likely nothing will. Chatter barely ever exists with them.

The only time they they get pulled out are when I have a race, or real hard days when I don't want a 80's mm ski. Every ski has a point were you feel you are pushing them too hard, I have yet to find it with these, and trust me I have tried. At 250 I can ski them very hard and they are right there asking for more.

[deadheadskier]

250 - I'm assuming you are referring to your weight

what size are you on and would you recommend for me at my size 5'9" 195? I would normally lean towards the 175, but perhaps the 165 is the better choice? Definitely interested in demoing a pair.

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

[quote=. Plus I try not to use them, as the make me ski at ridiculous speeds.[/QUOTE]


Haha..that's the way I like to ski..fa fa fa fast..There was a guy earlier this evening at Blue mountain on 210 Super G skis and I skied faster than him but he made alot more turns. My Elan S12s are a good stiff all mountain ski with dimensions 112-67-100 with a 15.9m radius in a 176 length. To me they're a perfect ice coast carver..mine are my second pair of the 2004-05 skis and they're after 100 days on them..They're metal skis..not wood like my Rossi fat skis.

[Hawkshot99]

250 would be my weight..

I ski them in a 175. For me I would have liked them in a 170, but they didn't make it, and 165 was just too short when I skied them. My friend had them in a 165 and I think he is around your weight/height and he loved his in the 165.

On the length I am not the greatest at recommending. Give them a demo try.

[wa-loaf]

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I want wood and titanium in my skis for ripping hard pack.

[kbroderick]

I've got a pair of 165cm Fischer slalom skis (true race skis, although I'm not sure if they're WC stock and flex or not), and they'll hold okay for medium-radius turns on hard snow. However, you have to be damn sure to stay centered...if you get forward, they will make a slalom turn, regardless of how fast you are going. They do start to feel a little unstable when reaching moderately-high GS speeds in medium-to-large GS turns. They are excellent for slalom turns.

My non-race-stock Rossi GS boards (174cm, R > 21m, I think...although I'd have to double-check) are a great firm-snow ski but take some more effort to turn (more so than the slalom skis, I feel like I need a stiffer boot to adequately drive them).

If you are interested in a true race ski, I'd suggest keeping an eye on the TGR Gear Swap forum--used race stuff in good shape tends to go pretty cheap over there (the Rossis were $150 with bindings and have more than enough life left for me to use 10-20 days a year for beer league skiing, which is why I bought them; I've seen similar pricing on skis from various makers, and you don't need this year's race skis unless you need to conform to FIS regs).

[deadheadskier]

Originally Posted by kbroderick

If you are interested in a true race ski, I'd suggest keeping an eye on the TGR Gear Swap forum--used race stuff in good shape tends to go pretty cheap over there (the Rossis were $150 with bindings and have more than enough life left for me to use 10-20 days a year for beer league skiing, which is why I bought them; I've seen similar pricing on skis from various makers, and you don't need this year's race skis unless you need to conform to FIS regs).

This probably makes the most financial sense. The reality is, I only ski 20-25 days a year, wish it was more, but that's the way it goes. Out of those days, 5-7 are typically the hard snow days I'd be looking for a race ski. Days where the woods and bumps are shot. As much as its great getting a shiny pair of new skis, its probably not necessary for me to do so for this piece of equipment I desire in my quiver.

[skibum9995]

You can usually get one year old race skis cheap at a ski club swap in the fall.

If you want a race ski to go fast and hold on hardpack I say go for a longer ski. I ski on 181 Nordica Dobermann GSRs <23m radius as my everyday ski and love them. I'm a little guy, 5' 6" 135 lbs, but once I get up to speed they aren't that bad to turn as along as you have the space.