Edge Bevel

SKIQUATTRO · Mar 13, 2008, 1:47 PM

my Sugar Daddies are factory 1 side 1 base...I'm thinking about givin' them a 2.5-3.0 side and 1 base to give them a better hardpack grip when needed

Dims: Tip 126
Dims: Waist 99
Dims: Tail 117
Turning Radius 29m @ 183cm

thoughts??

kbroderick · Mar 13, 2008, 1:57 PM

I went to 2 deg of side bevel on my K2 Anti Pistes and was much happier with their hard-snow performance afterwards; I don't think I'd ski less than 2 degrees on anything intended for actual turning (I don't know about park skis). I also don't know that I'd go beyond 2 on an all-mountain ski; every pair of skis I've skied at both 2 degrees and 3 degrees has stayed sharp longer at 2 degrees, and the sharpness difference is much more perceptible in carved turns on race snow than all-mountain skiing.

Hawkshot99 · Mar 13, 2008, 2:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SKIQUATTRO

my Sugar Daddies are factory 1 side 1 base...

Are you sure about that? I thought all Atomics were 3 and 1.....

snowmonster · Mar 13, 2008, 3:39 PM

I think Atomic race skis are all 3:1. Not so for the others. 2:1 sounds about right for the Sugar Daddies given what we have out here. I keep my B4 (122/94/112) at 2:1 and they grip well. More than the actual angles, the important thing is to keep the edge sharp so that they grip. Gotta work on the edges after every ski day.

SKIQUATTRO · Mar 14, 2008, 8:34 AM

I thought all Atomics were 3:1 as well, but couldnt see them doing 3:1 on a Pow ski...so i called Atomic HQ in Utah, the Sugar is factory 1:1..

Hawkshot99 · Mar 14, 2008, 9:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SKIQUATTRO

I thought all Atomics were 3:1 as well, but couldnt see them doing 3:1 on a Pow ski...so i called Atomic HQ in Utah, the Sugar is factory 1:1..

Good to know. Thanks for correcting me. If you want to raise it to 2:1 I see no problem. I have raised all my skis that have been sharpened to that, with no problems.

andyzee · Mar 14, 2008, 9:18 PM

Atomics are 3:1 pow skis may be an exception. And since pow skis aren't mad to carve, I would be concerned about catching an edge easier.

SKIQUATTRO · Mar 18, 2008, 12:24 PM

i tune my metrons 3:1, will do the Daddies to 2:1 just to give a bit more bit when needed here in the east...out west i'd be 1:1

BeanoNYC · Mar 18, 2008, 7:02 PM

I go 2:1 on my Mantras and PE's. Don't know (or care) what factory bevels are set at.

Mar 13, 2008, 1:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
SKIQUATTRO Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LI, NY Posts: 1,433	Edge Bevel my Sugar Daddies are factory 1 side 1 base...I'm thinking about givin' them a 2.5-3.0 side and 1 base to give them a better hardpack grip when needed Dims: Tip 126 Dims: Waist 99 Dims: Tail 117 Turning Radius 29m @ 183cm thoughts?? __________________ updownupdownupdownupdown

Mar 13, 2008, 1:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
kbroderick Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Killington, Vermont Posts: 347	I went to 2 deg of side bevel on my K2 Anti Pistes and was much happier with their hard-snow performance afterwards; I don't think I'd ski less than 2 degrees on anything intended for actual turning (I don't know about park skis). I also don't know that I'd go beyond 2 on an all-mountain ski; every pair of skis I've skied at both 2 degrees and 3 degrees has stayed sharp longer at 2 degrees, and the sharpness difference is much more perceptible in carved turns on race snow than all-mountain skiing. __________________ Disclaimer: Unless otherwise noted, I speak only for myself, unless I'm saying something incredibly dumb, in which case I didn't say anything and you're hallucinating.

Mar 13, 2008, 3:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
snowmonster Stowe - December 31, 2007 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my mind, northern New England Posts: 697	I think Atomic race skis are all 3:1. Not so for the others. 2:1 sounds about right for the Sugar Daddies given what we have out here. I keep my B4 (122/94/112) at 2:1 and they grip well. More than the actual angles, the important thing is to keep the edge sharp so that they grip. Gotta work on the edges after every ski day. __________________ To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be yours to hold it high.

Mar 14, 2008, 8:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
SKIQUATTRO Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LI, NY Posts: 1,433	I thought all Atomics were 3:1 as well, but couldnt see them doing 3:1 on a Pow ski...so i called Atomic HQ in Utah, the Sugar is factory 1:1.. __________________ updownupdownupdownupdown

Mar 14, 2008, 9:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
andyzee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Home Posts: 7,003	Atomics are 3:1 pow skis may be an exception. And since pow skis aren't mad to carve, I would be concerned about catching an edge easier. __________________ 10-18-12-16

Mar 18, 2008, 12:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
SKIQUATTRO Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LI, NY Posts: 1,433	i tune my metrons 3:1, will do the Daddies to 2:1 just to give a bit more bit when needed here in the east...out west i'd be 1:1 __________________ updownupdownupdownupdown

Mar 18, 2008, 7:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
BeanoNYC Let's get down to brass tacks. How much for the ape? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rockaway Park, NY Posts: 3,859	I go 2:1 on my Mantras and PE's. Don't know (or care) what factory bevels are set at.

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