Bindings for my bump skis

[Greg]

Originally Posted by tekweezle

anybody have any opinions on how the Tyrolia LD12 RFII bindings would work on mogul skis? if level9sports has the mad trix mogul skis for 99$ again, i might take a flyer on them and the bindings i;d like to put on them are these they sell for 89$.

i know the RF plate adds some height. not ideal for park and freestyle but good for all mountain carving which is what i do about 90% of the time anyway.

i am not going to exactly be zippering down moguls. actually, i do the slow tail slap type of technique in the moguls. actually, i suck in the moguls which is why i want to try a mogul specific ski.

I don't know anything about those bindings, but the name "Railflex" sounds to me like it's a demo binding and includes some junk on there you really don't want from an added weight standpoint. Just looks for some cheepy Rossis or Looks on eBay and have a local shop do the mount. If you carve 90% of the time, this is not the best ski choice. If you're looking to get a bump specific ski, then set it up that way, i.e. flat bindings, no lifters. It's kind of pointless otherwise.

Also, not sure what the slow "tail slap" technique is, but keep in mind the point of a comp level bump ski like this is to run the zipper, WC style (or as close to it as you can get). The narrowness and soft tails facilitate that. You might struggle trying to carve them through the bumps which could just frustrate you. It's my understanding that the Mad Trix is stiff as far as bump skis go and rewards you for skiing it well, but penalizes you for not staying on the gas. Brian and Pat ski on them. Perhaps they can better evaluate the ski.

[tekweezle]

okay, so any sort of lifters/plate not ideal in moguls.

[bvibert]

Originally Posted by Greg

Brian and Pat ski on them. Perhaps they can better evaluate the ski.

It's a skinny ass ski that's more like having a couple of 1x4s strapped to your feet. And they have scary snakes on them that everyone will comment about. Actually in all seriousness they did carve some decent GS type turns when they were actually tuned. I've never skied on any other bump skis so I can't comment on the relative stiffness too much, but they do seem much less stiff than my other two pairs of all mountain skis. They will punish you if you spend too much time in the back seat and will reward you if you can stay centered or a bit forward.

[Greg]

Originally Posted by tekweezle

okay, so any sort of lifters/plate not ideal in moguls.

Not going to kill you, but my feeling is if you're going through the exercise of buying a bump ski, then set it up the way it should be set up. Personally, I like being close to the snow on my bump skis. The point of lifters is to give you room to throw down carves without booting out (not that I could ever get a ski on edge that much). Obviously not much carving happens in the bumps. I guess there is some nominal weight savings too, but really how much do plastic lifters weigh anyway? A demo binding might add some significant weight though.

[bvibert]

Originally Posted by tekweezle

okay, so any sort of lifters/plate not ideal in moguls.

Not ideal no. I actually have Look PX12 demo bindings on mine, which are basically on lifters. They seem to be working OK. I wish I had went with regular PX12s though (level nine had the demos for $99 w/ free mounting so I went with that out of convenience..).

[tekweezle]

i run the RF II binding on my Salomon Scream Limited for all mountain usage. I like them because you can move the binding forward and backwards to change the characteristics of the skis to suit the terrain(more forwards for quicker turning, more backwards for better balance in powder). the added height of the RF plate helps with carving.

getting them mounted on a pair of skis like this would totally be a cost/flexibility thing. but it's sounding like not a good idea as the added height of the plate would interfere with skiing in moguls.

[Greg]

Originally Posted by tekweezle

i run the RF II binding on my Salomon Scream Limited for all mountain usage. I like them because you can move the binding forward and backwards to change the characteristics of the skis to suit the terrain(more forwards for quicker turning, more backwards for better balance in powder). the added height of the RF plate helps with carving.

getting them mounted on a pair of skis like this would totally be a cost/flexibility thing. but it's sounding like not a good idea as the added height of the plate would interfere with skiing in moguls.

Again, I'm nitpicking, and you might not notice a difference from a height or even weight standpoint. Also, realize that for bumps you're going to want to be forward all the time so adjustability is not a concern. The rule of thumb is to mount bindings on bump skis 1-4 cm forward of the standard mounting point. Does this really make a difference for the recreational skier like us? Probably not, but again, if you're going so far as to buy a bump ski, then apparently you're already looking for gear that will give you an edge. Might as well go all the way...

[bvibert]

Ideally you want to find a light, flat mount binding. All that ability to move the binding adds weight too...

[wa-loaf]

I don't know if they are as flat as the Looks, but these would be better choice over the Rail Flex. http://www.levelninesports.com/head-...gs-p-3006.html

There is some rise to them, but no plate or anything.

[Greg]

Originally Posted by wa-loaf

I don't know if they are as flat as the Looks, but these would be better choice over the Rail Flex. http://www.levelninesports.com/head-...gs-p-3006.html

There is some rise to them, but no plate or anything.

That looks perfect.