Bindings for my bump skis

MR. evil · Mar 14, 2008, 8:26 PM

I just pixked up a pair of K2 Cabrawlers for a song, and I now need a pair of binding for them. Several of people have mentioned the Look PX12 or the Rossi Axial2 120's. I found these Axial2's online and can get them for $87 with a coupon code. I was also told that I should binding with flat mounts for the bumps skis, but I am not sure these are flat mounts.

http://www.evogear.com/outlet/alpine...ial-2-120.aspx

Hawkshot99 · Mar 14, 2008, 9:08 PM

That looks like it has a lifter plate to it. It adds a few MM's (dont know how many) to the height your boot sits at.

jack97 · Mar 14, 2008, 9:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MR. evil

I just pixked up a pair of K2 Cabrawlers for a song, and I now need a pair of binding for them. Several of people have mentioned the Look PX12 or the Rossi Axial2 120's. I found these Axial2's online and can get them for $87 with a coupon code. I was also told that I should binding with flat mounts for the bumps skis, but I am not sure these are flat mounts.

http://www.evogear.com/outlet/alpine...ial-2-120.aspx

iirc, Look PX12 has a height of 26 mm, the lifter version adds another 6 mm (slightly less than 1/4") in height and the jib version adds 3 mm.

I do recall (vaguely) and confirmed by hawk that the Axial2 is the lifter version of the PX12 or Rossi Scratch 120.

Most bummpers don't want that type of rise and rather ski close to the ground by choosing a flat ski and binding.

Having said that, it is a nice deal. IMO, the extra 6mm would make much of a difference for some one starting out.

MR. evil · Mar 14, 2008, 9:34 PM

I talked to the owner of my local ski shop, he has the PX12 JIB on sale for like $130, but I buy alot from the guy and have been a customer for years. He usually knocks off a few extra bucks for me. I am going to head down to his shop tommorrow and see if I can get a deal. If not I may just order these Rossi's. Like you said, given my skill level in the bumps, I doubt it will really make a differance.

powbmps · Mar 14, 2008, 9:53 PM

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you will not experience pre-releases

Maybe I should pick up a pair.

Hawkshot99 · Mar 14, 2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by powbmps

Maybe I should pick up a pair.

In the past 3 years I have gone through 5 pairs of Axials, and other than the first trip were I had the skier type too low I have never pre-released. But I don't do moguls so I am not speaking in that area.

Hawkshot99 · Mar 14, 2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkshot99

That looks like it has a lifter plate to it. It adds a few MM's (dont know how many) to the height your boot sits at.

I have a pair of those exact bindings(slightly different colors though...) sitting in my room, so I thought I would take some pictures.

The binding....

Side view of the lifter plate. I do not have a way to measure it's height as the edges are taller than the part that the binding actually sits on.

Top view of the plate.

How much difference is their really between a lifter and not having a lifter? That is for you to decide. On powder skis it is "preferred" not to have lifters, but I put them on to get the ski on edge easier for when i ski trails, and notice no difference in the powder. I know different areas of use, just giving my thoughts.

jack97 · Mar 15, 2008, 6:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MR. evil

I talked to the owner of my local ski shop, he has the PX12 JIB on sale for like $130, but I buy alot from the guy and have been a customer for years. He usually knocks off a few extra bucks for me. I am going to head down to his shop tommorrow and see if I can get a deal.

The jib version has the 3mm rubber cushion to absorb impact from landings. It might be a good binding to learn bumps with in case of mistiming.

Ask your local shop if he can take some money off on the mount. Local shops around my area will charge any where from 25-40 for a new mount.

ed-drum · Mar 25, 2008, 6:59 AM

I have been using Look bindings since the 70's and never had a problem with them. Never fell out of them and never twisted up my knee. They have a higher rebound to snap back in (1"). I notice that the majority of pros that I see on tv use them. I won't use anything else. Cost is not a factor with me, for it is cheaper to spend more on equipment than an ambulance ride. I ski bumps and when I hear a "click" and see someone go down near me it is a Marker. I told a guy I know about that who uses them and he gave me an argument. He tore up his knee two weeks ago and is down and out for a long time. Ed.

tekweezle · Mar 27, 2008, 11:41 AM

anybody have any opinions on how the Tyrolia LD12 RFII bindings would work on mogul skis? if level9sports has the mad trix mogul skis for 99$ again, i might take a flyer on them and the bindings i;d like to put on them are these they sell for 89$.

i know the RF plate adds some height. not ideal for park and freestyle but good for all mountain carving which is what i do about 90% of the time anyway.

i am not going to exactly be zippering down moguls. actually, i do the slow tail slap type of technique in the moguls. actually, i suck in the moguls which is why i want to try a mogul specific ski.

Mar 14, 2008, 8:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
MR. evil Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 527	Bindings for my bump skis I just pixked up a pair of K2 Cabrawlers for a song, and I now need a pair of binding for them. Several of people have mentioned the Look PX12 or the Rossi Axial2 120's. I found these Axial2's online and can get them for $87 with a coupon code. I was also told that I should binding with flat mounts for the bumps skis, but I am not sure these are flat mounts. http://www.evogear.com/outlet/alpine...ial-2-120.aspx

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tekweezle Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377	anybody have any opinions on how the Tyrolia LD12 RFII bindings would work on mogul skis? if level9sports has the mad trix mogul skis for 99$ again, i might take a flyer on them and the bindings i;d like to put on them are these they sell for 89$. i know the RF plate adds some height. not ideal for park and freestyle but good for all mountain carving which is what i do about 90% of the time anyway. i am not going to exactly be zippering down moguls. actually, i do the slow tail slap type of technique in the moguls. actually, i suck in the moguls which is why i want to try a mogul specific ski. __________________ wish i were skiing.....

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Mar 14, 2008, 9:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
MR. evil Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 527	I talked to the owner of my local ski shop, he has the PX12 JIB on sale for like $130, but I buy alot from the guy and have been a customer for years. He usually knocks off a few extra bucks for me. I am going to head down to his shop tommorrow and see if I can get a deal. If not I may just order these Rossi's. Like you said, given my skill level in the bumps, I doubt it will really make a differance.

Mar 25, 2008, 6:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
ed-drum Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Saugeries,ny Posts: 107	I have been using Look bindings since the 70's and never had a problem with them. Never fell out of them and never twisted up my knee. They have a higher rebound to snap back in (1"). I notice that the majority of pros that I see on tv use them. I won't use anything else. Cost is not a factor with me, for it is cheaper to spend more on equipment than an ambulance ride. I ski bumps and when I hear a "click" and see someone go down near me it is a Marker. I told a guy I know about that who uses them and he gave me an argument. He tore up his knee two weeks ago and is down and out for a long time. Ed.