Gas Prices = Apprehension for Next Season?

[Greg]

Originally Posted by snoseek

Anyway you sound a bit like my sister that has a holier than thou, I've reached a whole different level of being because I reproduced. It actually touches a nerve with me because most of the family treats me like I'm gay and they're are hardcore christian.

Like I said in my previous post, good on you for picking the road that works best for you. I have no problem with that. Just don't imply the road others took is the wrong way, or that they're not following it correctly.

Originally Posted by snoseek

It's all good, we live completely separate lives, you took one fork, I took the other. You chose family, things, ect..., I choose experiences. I don't expect you to understand where I'm coming from.

No doubt. One final point I will make though. Family is an experience, that's for sure.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by skiboarder

I find the increased gas issue is blown way out of proportion for the non poor. It takes about 22 gallons of gas for me to go from westchester to Killington roundtrip. Say gas prices will increase $2.00 a gallon from this ski season from the previous. My weekend is costing me $44 more. At $2.50, $55 more. For my wife and I , discounted lift tixes will be $172 for 2 days. Lodging about $250. Food, maybe about $150. If gas is $5 a gallon, it will cost $110. $682 for the weekend instead of say $630. That's an increase in total cost of less than 10%. Add an extra day or kids to the mix, and the % price increase gets much smaller. Is this really a big deal? Hell, bring a hot plate or stay at a place with access to a microwave and don't go out for dinner and your ahead of the game.

I agree. Looking at the increase from a year prior, the incremental cost caused by gas increases (even at 2 bucks as in skiboarder's example) is not that much considering the total cost of a ski day/weekend/week. Those who travel with friends or family have an even smaller delta %. Those just trying to make ends meet, may be forced out, but I think that may be a small %, and they may have opted out anyway.

I think the biggest change we may see is that the mountains closer to Metro areas may get more of the total business. More thought may go into driving that extra 150 miles or so.

[deadheadskier]

Originally Posted by Vinny

I agree. Looking at the increase from a year prior, the incremental cost caused by gas increases (even at 2 bucks as in skiboarder's example) is not that much considering the total cost of a ski day/weekend/week. Those who travel with friends or family have an even smaller delta %. Those just trying to make ends meet, may be forced out, but I think that may be a small %, and they may have opted out anyway.

I think the biggest change we may see is that the mountains closer to Metro areas may get more of the total business. More thought may go into driving that extra 150 miles or so.

There is some truth to this, but it doesn't account for the 'total picture' as I stated earlier. While that scenario that skiboarder makes shows a rather modest increase of only $50 for the weekend, its the other areas of life that will hurt that I think will effect people more. Having commuting costs go up by 30+% and the cost to heat peoples home nearly doubling will be the areas that cause the real pinch and for people to monitor their discretionary spending much more. $50 isn't that much in the grand scheme of things. $1000-$2000 increase in heating oil expenses is for most people.

[Bob R]

I think your both chose to what you belive in. Common things ski passion. Snowseek chose turns. over family. I understand Greg in his feeling about kids and employment.

Takes alot less coin to live with without a faimily and a house payment. Very little flexibility once locked in.
Many choices are made for you

[snoseek]

Originally Posted by Greg

It was kinda implied. Click. It was the tone there that bothered me.

Just stating my simple opinion that the big car and house in the burbs will not be the model for the future. Just an thought, possibly an incorrect one.


With that said, someone that has never done it is not qualified to comment on the right way to parent.

are you kidding me


I have 18 years of experience form the other side as being a child. I'm conciously trying to do the opposite of what my parents did. They both worked their ass off and could have been less owned by their jobs. They were spenders.

[Greg]

Originally Posted by snoseek

are you kidding me


I have 18 years of experience form the other side as being a child.

Me too. Trust me, it's useless.

[SkiDork]

Originally Posted by snoseek

are You Kidding Me


i Have 18 Years Of Experience Form The Other Side As Being A Child. I'm Conciously Trying To Do The Opposite Of What My Parents Did. They Both Worked Their Ass Off And Could Have Been Less Owned By Their Jobs. They Were Spenders.

Rofl!!! Potd!!!

[snoseek]

Originally Posted by Greg

Like I said in my previous post, good on you for picking the road that works best for you. I have no problem with that. Just don't imply the road others took is the wrong way, or that they're not following it correctly.



No doubt. One final point I will make though. Family is an experience, that's for sure.

Final thought in this epic hijack-I've never met anyone that regrets having kids whether its planned or the mother of all mistakes. That tells me that it must be quite an experience. I'm getting older @ 35 but g.f. is 25 so we have +- 15 years to change our minds. I don't think it will ever happen though.

[tjf67]

Isn't the ski industry kinda recession proof?


There operating costs are going to go through the roof. Have the day pass prices for next season come out? Good thing for passes.

[tjf67]

Originally Posted by greg

like I Said In My Previous Post, Good On You For Picking The Road That Works Best For You. I Have No Problem With That. Just Don't Imply The Road Others Took Is The Wrong Way, Or That They're Not Following It Correctly.



No Doubt. One Final Point I Will Make Though. Family is an Experience, That's For Sure.

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