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The Price of Gas


I think that the facts that I posted are fairly accurate and the end of easy oil is going to happen in my lifetime. I personally am very opposed to ...

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Old Apr 28, 2005, 6:35 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I think that the facts that I posted are fairly accurate and the end of easy oil is going to happen in my lifetime. I personally am very opposed to drilling in ANWR as the reserves that are predicted to be there are dubious at best, and the enviornmental damage has the possibility to be severe is an accident/spill should occur.

While I understand the politics involved in keeping oil flowing to the Alaska Pipeline now that the north slope is running dry, the enviornmental risk is not worth it IMO.

Conservation and alternative energy sources like hydrogen/propane exist for motor vehicles, but they have been very slow to make it into the main stream market.

There are folks where I live that have 4 or more cars (daily driven) for only two people. The attitude among most folks here is that they are willing to pay double or triple the amount of money to fill up there cars, and that oil is a renuable energy source????

My facts came from: lifeaftertheoilcrash.net
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There are folks where I live that have 4 or more cars (daily driven) for only two people. The attitude among most folks here is that they are willing to pay double or triple the amount of money to fill up there cars, and that oil is a renuable energy source???
So, I HAVE to ask... do 2 people driving 4 cars use more oil & gas than 2 people driving 2 cars. It'd be a neat trick to see.

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Old Apr 28, 2005, 10:02 PM   #73 (permalink)
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The neighbor owns a Hummer, Porsche, Jeep Grand Jerokee, and a Jaguar, for two people in the household, I think that is a bit excessive.

I worry about the fuel sources that will be available for my son when he is my age, especially when people waste fuel just to show off wealth or status.
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Old Apr 29, 2005, 8:22 AM   #74 (permalink)
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If he has a Hummer, why have a Jeep, too? So you have something to pull the Hummer out when it gets stuck?

Really, having a surplus of cars does, in the end, result in higher gas and oil useage, if you add in the resources used to produce those cars. And, since the Porsche and Jag probably cost more than the Jeep and Hummer, they also contibuted to the trade deficit. This guy's just six kinds of socially irresponsible.

loafer- just to be clear, I wasn't doubting the accuracy of your stats- they sound about right to me. Just giving you the heads up on their weaknesses, in case you need them in a fight.
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Old Apr 29, 2005, 9:31 AM   #75 (permalink)
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I agree, and it's a little frustrating to see someone with so many different kinds of vehicles, for what purpose? What's more is out of those four, the Hummer is one of the DAILY driven vehicles used most often

I have nothing against suvs, I wanted to purchase the Kia Sorento, but 15mpg is kind of on the low side so I decided to stick with my Escort wagon a while longer. The hybrid suv from Ford looks interesting, if a little $$$$.

I hear you regarding my figures about the global oil supply, I just found the statistics interesting, so I posted them. I agree that there are probably other ways to get more oil out of our planet, but they may not be easy or enviornmentally sound.
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Old Apr 29, 2005, 9:38 AM   #76 (permalink)
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I drive a Suv in the winter to ski and in the summer to go camping and pull my camper. I drive a small car in the summer to commute to save a penny. I took my ski racks of my suv last week.... Went from 17 to 21 MPG pretty quick. Left them off for this weekend. Thats like 60 miles per tank wow.
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Old Apr 30, 2005, 7:00 PM   #77 (permalink)
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I know how to make gas cheaper.... :idea:

the way to make gas cheaper is to get bush out of office cause hes a moron. gas wold go down probly past a dollar. doo wha?? yeah imagine that.... not attacking that arab nations is a good Idea!
wow..... never thought.
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Old Apr 30, 2005, 8:07 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Up here in the North Country, gas prices continue to fall. Today's prices in two stations have dropped to $2.13 a gallon, down from $2.14 yesterday and from a high of $2.19 a week ago. Usually gas prices are $.10 less a gallon in Concord, NH.

Looking forward to hiking several times a week again this year. How about an AZ outing in the Whites? Interested?!
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, Yeah...there's nothin' like pummeling (or inviting outsiders to pummel) one of Saudi Arabia's rivals to stabilize those crude prices...
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a SMART idea.....

I wish I could export this to the States. I most likely could, but it would be cheaper to by a Chevy Aveo here and the Aveo is like a Lincoln in comparison to the Smart.

The car below is a Smart car. It is sold by Mercedes Benz sort of like BMW / Mini. I saw this one in the Wal-Mart parking lot in Sherbrooke this weekend. I think it is about 8 feet long (it is about the length of a motorcycle), seats 2, engine is in the rear and gets about 70mpg,(it is a small 2 or 3 cylinder direct injected diesel.)

The body panels are plastic, like a Saturn, but with a Smart car if you get bored with the color you just go to your MB / Smart facility and buy new ones and take the old ones off and put new ones on. This Smart had a fabric roof that slides back, like the old VW Bugs had. I think the price for this car is about $12,000 USD.






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