Rossignol Bandit B2 decission

bill9009 · Oct 23, 2005, 9:26 AM

The legend 8000's were actually another one I was considering, I was skiing on some olin kinetics which were 167's and 102-70-91, I think? I am almost glad they are gone, it gives me an excuse to go out and get something new!

Oh yeah I am about 5'10" and 185lbs if that helps.

bill9009 · Oct 23, 2005, 7:15 PM

Thanks for the advice, I went to a different shop today and they didnt recommend the b2, and they didnt carry the dynastar's, but I found these, the Fischer AMC 76's. So I bought them instead. Plus they guaranteed I would like them and if I didnt like them after I sked them 4 or 5 times I could bring them back for something else. So basically I get to demo them, can't beat that!

bigbog · Oct 24, 2005, 2:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bill9009

..........but my old skis were stolen out of my garage and .......

Now that's a new "low" that I've ever read....

Hey, the 76s look like a good NewEngland ski bill9009.

billski · Oct 24, 2005, 2:45 PM

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Originally Posted by riverc0il

fwiw, and i know for every ski out there... there is someone who does not like it, the b2 isn't a very lively ski and felt quite dead to me. these sticks sucked on the groomers, imo. just plain sucked. i tried out most of the all mountain mid-fats for the advanced skier last year, and this ski was the worst on the groomers. i imagine they have good float and would be cool on powder. it might have just been my body build and skiing style (220 lbs, 6'1", aggressive skier), but these skis did worse than nothing for me, they were holding me back.

i can't imagine starting the ski season without a pair of sticks, but i also couldn't imagine dropping over $500 on something that may or may not do the trick. what skis were you on before? if you have M1000 binders i imagine you were not skiing rossi which normally get mounted up with looks, iirc.

I have to agree with river. I have never skied on them but my skiing bud, who is a high-end skier bought these B2 sticks untested because he got a good deal (he muttered something about being born in VT so he had to buy rossis....)
Now I get hear him whine and complain about how slow and unresponsive the skis are. Comes down in part to your skill level. For a mid-level skier, they are probably OK, but they are not gonna help you advance.

bt · Oct 30, 2005, 12:58 PM

i have b3's and love'em for all types terrain and conditions. at a 180 length they turn as fast or as slow as i tell them

its mostly how they feel to you as a skier so demo is the way if you are paying full price. but i usually ski what i can get cheap that year

hope this helps with your decision

bill9009 · Oct 31, 2005, 6:10 PM

thanks for the advice but i already bought the fischers., and buy the way I found my old skis last week in the basement, i guess when i moved back to NY they got lost in the shuffle, i just assumed they got stolen out of my old garage before I moved, you know what they say about assuming....

I'm glad I found em too, I didnt want to break the new sticks in at Killington last weekend!!!

ctenidae · Nov 1, 2005, 7:30 AM

I'll throw my hat in with the anti-B2 crowd. Demoed for a half day, and hated every minute of them. No matter what snow I was on, I felt like I couldn't depend on the skis for anything. Too soft to handle my "unique" bump style (don't ask- it's not pretty), and on the groomed they chattered and slid everywhere. It amazes me they're classed with the Volkl 724's (which I loved).

bill9009 · Nov 1, 2005, 5:02 PM

I bet they would have performed well last weekend at killington, the b-2's that is or maybe some b-3's

RossiSkier · Nov 2, 2005, 12:26 PM

The B2's are a great ski! They are a one ski quiver ski. They are foam core, good in the crud and a midfat floater for the powder. But in the span of '05 and '06 they have changed. The '06 B1 has taken over for the '05 B2. The B1 is a great ski, although it's wood core it's a great all mountain midfat. The B1 is sold for about $389. If you get the '05 B2 with the Axial 120's, then that will be all the ski you need. Never mind the skeptics. That is a great price if they're new.

riverc0il · Nov 2, 2005, 3:34 PM

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The B2's are a great ski! They are a one ski quiver ski.

sorry RossiSkier, but i completely disagree. the B2 was one of the worst skis for groomers i have ever tried, it did nothing for me. maybe in natural snow this might be a great ski for some folks, but this thing was beyond dead on groomed snow.

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Oct 23, 2005, 9:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
bill9009 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 101	The legend 8000's were actually another one I was considering, I was skiing on some olin kinetics which were 167's and 102-70-91, I think? I am almost glad they are gone, it gives me an excuse to go out and get something new! Oh yeah I am about 5'10" and 185lbs if that helps.

Oct 23, 2005, 7:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
bill9009 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 101	Thanks for the advice, I went to a different shop today and they didnt recommend the b2, and they didnt carry the dynastar's, but I found these, the Fischer AMC 76's. So I bought them instead. Plus they guaranteed I would like them and if I didnt like them after I sked them 4 or 5 times I could bring them back for something else. So basically I get to demo them, can't beat that!

Oct 30, 2005, 12:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
bt Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	i have b3's and love'em for all types terrain and conditions. at a 180 length they turn as fast or as slow as i tell them its mostly how they feel to you as a skier so demo is the way if you are paying full price. but i usually ski what i can get cheap that year hope this helps with your decision

Oct 31, 2005, 6:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
bill9009 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 101	thanks for the advice but i already bought the fischers., and buy the way I found my old skis last week in the basement, i guess when i moved back to NY they got lost in the shuffle, i just assumed they got stolen out of my old garage before I moved, you know what they say about assuming.... I'm glad I found em too, I didnt want to break the new sticks in at Killington last weekend!!!

Nov 1, 2005, 7:30 AM	#17 (permalink)
ctenidae Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 4,557	I'll throw my hat in with the anti-B2 crowd. Demoed for a half day, and hated every minute of them. No matter what snow I was on, I felt like I couldn't depend on the skis for anything. Too soft to handle my "unique" bump style (don't ask- it's not pretty), and on the groomed they chattered and slid everywhere. It amazes me they're classed with the Volkl 724's (which I loved).

Nov 1, 2005, 5:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
bill9009 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 101	I bet they would have performed well last weekend at killington, the b-2's that is or maybe some b-3's

Nov 2, 2005, 12:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
RossiSkier Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: N. Troy, NY Posts: 599	The B2's are a great ski! They are a one ski quiver ski. They are foam core, good in the crud and a midfat floater for the powder. But in the span of '05 and '06 they have changed. The '06 B1 has taken over for the '05 B2. The B1 is a great ski, although it's wood core it's a great all mountain midfat. The B1 is sold for about $389. If you get the '05 B2 with the Axial 120's, then that will be all the ski you need. Never mind the skeptics. That is a great price if they're new.