The Grateful Thread

[deadheadskier]

Looks like I'm skipping Vibes this year in favor of this:

http://www.upnorthfestival.com/

I love Vibes, but I often find it too large for my liking. I'll miss and would prefer seeing Phil as well, but a 5K people festival is more my speed. It's also a great deal closer to home than vibes and I'd imagine the tickets will be a better value.

[marcski]

Originally Posted by ckofer

1982 Portland Maine

Anyhow, it is a little unfair to say Vince sucked. He had talents they never really used well-especially his ability to sing. The band never got its act together after Brent passed IMHO. Jerry's health was probably a big issue...

I don't think he "sucked" per se. After re-reading my post it did sound a bit harsh. lol.

But, he definitely never fit in with them. His sound nor his vocals. I'm sure he was a very good musician as well as a quality, nice guy. But musically, within the Grateful Dead's entire career.... his tenure is definitely at the bottom of the curve.

[deadheadskier]

Originally Posted by marcski

I don't think he "sucked" per se. After re-reading my post it did sound a bit harsh. lol.

But, he definitely never fit in with them. His sound nor his vocals. I'm sure he was a very good musician as well as a quality, nice guy. But musically, within the Grateful Dead's entire career.... his tenure is definitely at the bottom of the curve.

I would tend to agree with this statement. Vince only occasionally impressed me. It is my understanding that Vince was Jerry's guy, probably more for partying purposes than the actual music. I think this is pretty evident considering the rest of the band's lack of involving Vince in post-jerry projects. Apparently vinces drug demons were equally as bad as Jerry's and neither Bobby or Phil were willing to tolerate those issues as there are plenty of more adept keyboardists out there without the drvg problems..

[ckofer]

Originally Posted by Bob R

He was a very nice and friendly to me. I met him at the Hampton Beach club Casino when he was playing with Mickey hart's band.

I caught him a couple times the year before he passed. Once was at the Stone Church in Newmarket, NH with Gent Treadly. The show started late and ended about 1:30 am. Small crowd but the vibe was right.



Shortly after that, he played at the Rochester Opera House with the same band. Pathetically small crowd which was more obvious that at the Stone Church as the stage was much more elevated. He was kind enough to hang out afterward and meet the few guests. I found him quite likeable but when I shook his hand he felt like a frail old man. The warmup band was Rhythm Ship and through them I've discovered some other local jam talent. It was sad seeing someone that had played in front of huge crowds not attract 100 people to show. At the core, I felt like the community around the shows had shorted him.



I will agree that the 90's sound of The Dead was hard to embrace compared to previous periods. After meeting Vince, and I think others feel the same way, I find myself defending him as a person. I agree also that he, for whatever reasons, could not contribute musically to the band like Brent. I never really thought Hornsby was that interesting in the band either. I admire his talent but he was never quite weird/tormented/whatever to take you to those dark, spooky places (and return) the GD of the 80's would.

[deadheadskier]

31st Anniversay today of one the All Time Great performances. The Morning Dew from that night still after hearing it probably a thousand times sends chills down my spine like nothing I've ever listened to. Tremendous display of power in that final crescendo

[marcski]

Originally Posted by deadheadskier

31st Anniversay today of one the All Time Great performances. The Morning Dew from that night still after hearing it probably a thousand times sends chills down my spine like nothing I've ever listened to. Tremendous display of power in that final crescendo

Jerry's guitar sound in the Dancin' is also super memorable from that nigth's show.

[Bob R]

Will go to mo for Billy's band at Tupelo on June 3rd today. DhS. I may make some of the up north festival. thankx for the linc. Said bobby on Sunday and then it said TBA. I would make a day trip to see assembly of dust any way. Might just make a day stop on sat. Working on trying to made the Nh rat dog show. One child I have set up for a sleep over. Working on a similar plan for the other, then I'm in. My bride is out of town. We'll see. Kind of catching the need for some shows. I got section c for Medow brook for phil. Looks like maybe 10 or 12 rows back. I was front row for bobby and bruce there. Cool little venue. Beach during the day Jam at night..

in realtion to DHS post ... stole this linc from K-zone.

http://dead.net/sites/deadbeta.rhino...tBegonias.html

[deadheadskier]

AOD will be woth day trip, but if your schedule allows, be there for Lettuce. This is Eric Krasnor of Soulive's original band from tweleve years back including a member or two from Scofields band. I saw them on Friday and they practically blew the roof of the Big Easy. Best show I've seen in months.


JEA!!

[Bob R]

Waiting to see the schedule.

[deadheadskier]

http://forums.alpinezone.com/group.php?groupid=8


thought I'd start a group