How Much Water to Bring on Mt. Washington Hike?

[riverc0il]

i'll second cbcbd's idea of lion's head on the way down that way you get to climb out of the bowl plus see it from above. i love hiking right up tux. is this midweek or weekend? weekend that trail can be rather busy. mid-week, i have sat at the top of the headwall for half an hour without seeing a soul.

2-3 liters should be fine depending upon your level of fitness. i've done it with two but three is better if you don't mind the weight. you can refill at the summit. people getting out of their cars and off the train may look at you funny and ask stupid questions like "did you really hike up?" just ignore them best part about climbing washington is the plateau above tux under the summit cone, don't rush that part of the hike as the summit is always a disappointment, much better views from just above tux, imo.

[ChileMass]

cbcbd and Steve - thanks for the info and input. I'd like to do either Lion's Head or Boott Spur coming back down, but in my shape I'll be lucky just to make it back via the most direct route. Pics and trip report to follow.

[riverc0il]

there is always the hiker shuttle down if you get desperate actually, i did that my first time up to the summit due to inexperience and a really sore thigh muscle. looking forward to your pics and trip report! tux is a magical place in any season, i don't get over there often enough during the non-snowy months.

[MtnMagic]

As the others have posted, and to clarify, it is 4 hours (or less to the summit!) Refill you 3 liter reservoir when you reach the summit and you'll have plenty of water on the descent. And super views on a clear day!!

Fixed the spelling.

[cbcbd]

Originally Posted by ChileMass

cbcbd and Steve - thanks for the info and input. I'd like to do either Lion's Head or Boott Spur coming back down, but in my shape I'll be lucky just to make it back via the most direct route. Pics and trip report to follow.

I was going to suggest Boot Spur coming down but it's a little bit longer and coming down from Boot Spur is much harder on the legs (lots of stepping down from rock to rock). Lion's Head is also less exposed and not as steep as Tux so it's a safer choice for descent.
And yeah, you can always get to the top and take the shuttle down

[ChileMass]

I'm gonna try to avoid the hiker shuttle unless I am really worn out, but I was aware it was an option........

[Mike P.]

If fitness is an issue & getting to the top the goal, (as opposed to seeing Tuckerman’s as some type of skiing pilgrimage or because you’ve never seen the ravines up close, then I’d go up the Ammo trail.

It starts 500 feet higher, the footing is better & the steep section is down below while getting up either Lion’s Head, Boott Spur, the headwall is later in the trip when you are more tired. Getting up from the plateau (either from Lake of the Clouds or Tuckerman Jct.) while longer from Lakes is more gradual & on a trail with much better footing than all the irregular rock hopping that you do on the upper section of Tuckerman’s & the upper part of Lion’s Head.

Now fitness (or better yet, the lack of fitness) comes in many shapes. For me, in the days I was unfit (I’m no triathlete now either) I was able to walk 10-15 miles flat but elevation gain was the big factor so a longer trip gaining less elevation & at a more gradual rate was easier than a 4 mile trip with 4,500 feet of gain. Something like Mt. Marcy (15 miles RT but 3300 feet (or so)of gain took about as much time as a trip up Mt. Adams (9 miles, 4500 feet of gain from the typical trailhead – Appalachia)

Now back to the question, how much water to bring? Depends on your route but you can refill going up ammo without a filter at Lakes of Clouds Hut (do you need a filter at hermit Lake? I don’t know) you can also refill at the top so you only need enough (with extra for margin of error) to get to the top. I’d probably carry three liters as a force of habit, heading up Ammo I’d look at two liters. (Carrying a filter to me while lighter equals carrying a liter or I might consider 1 liter & the filter since on the Ammo trail there is no shortage of opportunities to fill up.

[ChileMass]

Mike - well, I've never done more than 3000' of vertical in a day, and I'm not in terrific shape, but I think if I go slow I will be able to do it via Tux. Yeah, it's the pilgrimage thing with a few of my collegues - gotta do Tuckerman Ravine, etc etc. I'd rather start from the west, but that will be next time.

The greatest vertical gain I have ever done is 2800 on Ike last year, 3000 in a big loop (about 7 miles) over Webster/Jackson/Pierce and 2700 on Jefferson 2 years ago. I realize this will be a challenge, but if it's too much I will turn back at the Alpine Garden, without shame. Well, maybe with a little bit of shame.......but if it's a nice day I will still get some nice views......it's all good.......

[Mike P.]

Good luck, although I was not in great shape last year, (doing the Y thing but eating a lot too) when a friend & I went up Lion's head in November the last bit up Tuckerman was painfully slow.

(conditions were patches of snow & ice, most cases not enough to fill in the holes & provide good footing, just enough to hide bad foot placements, one guy in another group - actually solo - thought he broke tibia above plastic boot & another tweaked his kneee, we went down auto road which had a couple of inches of snow & ice but had great footing)

An early start taking your time, lessening weight, a call to PNVC (603)466-2721 x116 (trail info) should get you info on whether or not you have to filter at Hermit Lake - or if Dave M. chimes in. There is probably enough water along the trail that you could get by with one bottle & a filter fill at PNVC, if need water early water along Huntington Trail just off Tux trail, then Hermit Lake & at the top. I'd want to drink a bottle at Hermit Lake first & then carry one as a lot of the climbing without shade takes place above the bowl.

[David Metsky]

Hermit Lakes has a well, so I don't think it's necessary to treat. I'm sure some do, but I generally only treat for surface water sources. The thing is, Hermit Lakes is just a 1.5 hour trip up from Pinkham Notch on the Tucks road, so you won't be using up much water. I pretty much start all trips with 3 liters of water.

-dave-