I am such a gear ho and a total geek, but I figured at least one or two people would find the following pictures interesting. I went a little past the usual ski pictures and tried to make them pseudo educational by doing some tip length, tail length, camber and tip profile comparison shots.
The skis from left to right:
Dynastar Legend 8000 - 178cm
Rossignol B3 - 184cm
PM Gear Bro Model - 188cm
Atomic Powder Plus - 180cm
Elan M1111 - 184cm
All skis are mounted on the manufacturer recommended line.
Funny how each manufacturer has their own scale for length measurement. The 184cm M1111 and the 180cm Pow+ are virtually identical in overall length. Nevermind that the Elans just dwarf the Pow+ in the girth department, these things are complete beasts and reasonably light for their size. The rest of the sizes seem to make sense. The 178 8000s seem kinda close to the Pow+ but I think the big boys have a much longer running length.
Moving on to the tip length comparison. All skis were lined up by boot sole center.
Gotta love how the Elans, which are considerably shorter overall than the Bros have so much more tip. The B3 and the Elan are both 184cm, yet the Elan seems to have a good 6cm of tip advantage, if not more. I think the mounting point on these things are way too far back. The next picture confirms this. Another interesting thing is the long tip on the Dynastars - in a 178cm length they have almost as much tip as the 184 B3s. No wonder river likes the old +1.5cm mounting position.
Tail length comparison. Skis still lined up by boot sole center.
This picture confirms what we saw in the tip shot. The Elan seems way way too far back at factory line. The Bros are pretty far forward with a long tail which makes for a very nice platform, these things feel solid on landings. The Pow+ has way more tip than tail but it stays within reason, the shorter tails help the ski sink in the back and keep the tips up, but Elan seems to have taken that idea overboard.
Another shot with the tip and tail combo for better veiwing:
And before anyone says anything, my shirt just happened to bunch up like that. I love my skis, but I don't LOVE my skis.
Camber and tip profile comparison:
The Bros win the excessive camber competition. Followed closely by the other two skis that don't need that much camber, the Pow+ and the M1111. Powder and camber don't play well together so I don't understand why my quiver seems to exhibit this trend. The Bros and B3 are tied in first place for the longest rise in tip, followed by the M1111, the 8000 and the Pow+ (in that order). I haven't skied the B3s yet, just picked them up on sierra during that $200 sale. I was not very excited to get them but the price was right, but after fondling them I would be willing to bet that these skis will float MUCH better than their dimmensions indicate. The soft, long tip, the long rise (rocker if that applies here), the powder profile of the tip along with low camber will do the trick. I would expect these skis to float about as well as a ski 10mm fatter under foot. I could be completely wrong though - wouldn't be the first time either.
I also have no plans of mounting up and using the M1111, they have already been sold. I included them in there for educational purposes - plus they make me look more core.
The skis from left to right:
Dynastar Legend 8000 - 178cm
Rossignol B3 - 184cm
PM Gear Bro Model - 188cm
Atomic Powder Plus - 180cm
Elan M1111 - 184cm
All skis are mounted on the manufacturer recommended line.
Funny how each manufacturer has their own scale for length measurement. The 184cm M1111 and the 180cm Pow+ are virtually identical in overall length. Nevermind that the Elans just dwarf the Pow+ in the girth department, these things are complete beasts and reasonably light for their size. The rest of the sizes seem to make sense. The 178 8000s seem kinda close to the Pow+ but I think the big boys have a much longer running length.
Moving on to the tip length comparison. All skis were lined up by boot sole center.
Gotta love how the Elans, which are considerably shorter overall than the Bros have so much more tip. The B3 and the Elan are both 184cm, yet the Elan seems to have a good 6cm of tip advantage, if not more. I think the mounting point on these things are way too far back. The next picture confirms this. Another interesting thing is the long tip on the Dynastars - in a 178cm length they have almost as much tip as the 184 B3s. No wonder river likes the old +1.5cm mounting position.
Tail length comparison. Skis still lined up by boot sole center.
This picture confirms what we saw in the tip shot. The Elan seems way way too far back at factory line. The Bros are pretty far forward with a long tail which makes for a very nice platform, these things feel solid on landings. The Pow+ has way more tip than tail but it stays within reason, the shorter tails help the ski sink in the back and keep the tips up, but Elan seems to have taken that idea overboard.
Another shot with the tip and tail combo for better veiwing:
And before anyone says anything, my shirt just happened to bunch up like that. I love my skis, but I don't LOVE my skis.
Camber and tip profile comparison:
The Bros win the excessive camber competition. Followed closely by the other two skis that don't need that much camber, the Pow+ and the M1111. Powder and camber don't play well together so I don't understand why my quiver seems to exhibit this trend. The Bros and B3 are tied in first place for the longest rise in tip, followed by the M1111, the 8000 and the Pow+ (in that order). I haven't skied the B3s yet, just picked them up on sierra during that $200 sale. I was not very excited to get them but the price was right, but after fondling them I would be willing to bet that these skis will float MUCH better than their dimmensions indicate. The soft, long tip, the long rise (rocker if that applies here), the powder profile of the tip along with low camber will do the trick. I would expect these skis to float about as well as a ski 10mm fatter under foot. I could be completely wrong though - wouldn't be the first time either.
I also have no plans of mounting up and using the M1111, they have already been sold. I included them in there for educational purposes - plus they make me look more core.