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Here's what I'll say on the internets, where it inevitably means jack shit.... and I'm drunk. I know people who have smoked weed from at least the age of 13. While I myself did not engage in this behavior at that age, I do notice them having particular difficulties in their engagement in society. They fit a certain bill that appears to coincide with their marijuana use at younger ages. They didn't give a shit about school. They were emboldened to take greater risks. Generally speaking they acted stupid and it appeared to have a lasting effect. Anecdotally I'll say that their marijuana use initiated at a younger pre-teen to teen age morphed them into a sub-typical person that can be spotted from a mile away unless they abstained from it for at least a decade after the age of 18 and are now 30.

As for the individuals that partook in a toke after the age of 21, they seem to fare no worse than the same persons that drank or tripped beginning at that age. Its a fact that I imagine that most who never smoked at all or never smoked until out of high school will attest to witnessing, at least admitting anonymously for fear of ostracizing too many friends. We all know too many "life" stoners, many of them probably having given it up because by 25 they realized it made them paranoid when they did it.

There seems to be a clear indication that marijuana use does indeed have a detrimental effect on the developing brain, and said brain comes near completion of its developmet around 25-26 years of age. The retardation of the development of wisdom and higher executive function is probably the underlying obstacle to the legalization of grass by those not susceptible to the "weed crazy", "refer madness" propaganda agenda. I think there are quite a few regular, comfortable doob smokers who treat it like a good glass of wine that are skeptical of legalizing it for all of society due to their experiences with the guy who was baked all the time in highschool and now doesn't really contribute all that much to society or the economy of America.

Let's face it with open and honest discussion, weed is not a harmless botanical substance delivered to us from God. It does carry risks to those most susceptible to deleterious effects, namely the mentally ill and young. You know what though? So does alcohol and to a greater and more destructive degree. The least marijuana legalization could afford this country, aside from the obvious relinquishment of burdens upon the justice and penal systems, is better control (while of course not perfect) of what age this substance can be purchased and consumed. A 35 year old productive employee in America is no real threat to the vitality of the country if he or she watches an art film after smoking a joint. However a 17 year old bong smashed out of their gourd, because, lets admit excess is the way of youth... not "I'm good with a hit or two", is a potential problem to the fabric of society with ramifications that could very well be lasting into the future. We as humans have coped with alcohol forever and have never come to a happy medium with it. It is the solvent that makes us laugh while at the same time rips us apart. However due to its prevalence over such a long time through our evolution as a species truly not wanting to kill each other and destroy everything, or rather what we aspire to be, we have become apathetic to its damage. Marijuana has only recently in terms of civilization come to the forefront of public debate. It does not propagate destructive tendencies in the vast majority of users, but requires a keen eye to its control by government. It is not harmless, but should be a valid consideration for its regulation and legalization. The danger of grass is in its ability to promote apathy and that's what scares those who haven't drank the "gateway drug", mind fucking cool-ade that's been driven into us by uncle sam.

It sort of boils down to; :"oh no, if weed was legal, nobody would give a shit and fight if aliens invaded us - we shouldn't allow it". Grass goes against the mainstream ideology of the promotion of fear and control because grass takes away fear while showing no definitive sign of removing judgement. Yes, marijuana could be a good thing for society but only for a society of mature adults who effectively and intelligently rationalize what is worth being afraid of.
 

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Here's what I'll say on the internets, where it inevitably means jack shit.... and I'm drunk. I know people who have smoked weed from at least the age of 13. While I myself did not engage in this behavior at that age, I do notice them having particular difficulties in their engagement in society. They fit a certain bill that appears to coincide with their marijuana use at younger ages. They didn't give a shit about school. They were emboldened to take greater risks. Generally speaking they acted stupid and it appeared to have a lasting effect. Anecdotally I'll say that their marijuana use initiated at a younger pre-teen to teen age morphed them into a sub-typical person that can be spotted from a mile away unless they abstained from it for at least a decade after the age of 18 and are now 30.

As for the individuals that partook in a toke after the age of 21, they seem to fare no worse than the same persons that drank or tripped beginning at that age. Its a fact that I imagine that most who never smoked at all or never smoked until out of high school will attest to witnessing, at least admitting anonymously for fear of ostracizing too many friends. We all know too many "life" stoners, many of them probably having given it up because by 25 they realized it made them paranoid when they did it.

There seems to be a clear indication that marijuana use does indeed have a detrimental effect on the developing brain, and said brain comes near completion of its developmet around 25-26 years of age. The retardation of the development of wisdom and higher executive function is probably the underlying obstacle to the legalization of grass by those not susceptible to the "weed crazy", "refer madness" propaganda agenda. I think there are quite a few regular, comfortable doob smokers who treat it like a good glass of wine that are skeptical of legalizing it for all of society due to their experiences with the guy who was baked all the time in highschool and now doesn't really contribute all that much to society or the economy of America.

Let's face it with open and honest discussion, weed is not a harmless botanical substance delivered to us from God. It does carry risks to those most susceptible to deleterious effects, namely the mentally ill and young. You know what though? So does alcohol and to a greater and more destructive degree. The least marijuana legalization could afford this country, aside from the obvious relinquishment of burdens upon the justice and penal systems, is better control (while of course not perfect) of what age this substance can be purchased and consumed. A 35 year old productive employee in America is no real threat to the vitality of the country if he or she watches an art film after smoking a joint. However a 17 year old bong smashed out of their gourd, because, lets admit excess is the way of youth... not "I'm good with a hit or two", is a potential problem to the fabric of society with ramifications that could very well be lasting into the future. We as humans have coped with alcohol forever and have never come to a happy medium with it. It is the solvent that makes us laugh while at the same time rips us apart. However due to its prevalence over such a long time through our evolution as a species truly not wanting to kill each other and destroy everything, or rather what we aspire to be, we have become apathetic to its damage. Marijuana has only recently in terms of civilization come to the forefront of public debate. It does not propagate destructive tendencies in the vast majority of users, but requires a keen eye to its control by government. It is not harmless, but should be a valid consideration for its regulation and legalization. The danger of grass is in its ability to promote apathy and that's what scares those who haven't drank the "gateway drug", mind fucking cool-ade that's been driven into us by uncle sam.

It sort of boils down to; :"oh no, if weed was legal, nobody would give a shit and fight if aliens invaded us - we shouldn't allow it". Grass goes against the mainstream ideology of the promotion of fear and control because grass takes away fear while showing no definitive sign of removing judgement. Yes, marijuana could be a good thing for society but only for a society of mature adults who effectively and intelligently rationalize what is worth being afraid of.

http://truththeory.com/2012/08/26/why-cannabis-is-still-illegal/
 

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Here's what I'll say on the internets, where it inevitably means jack shit.... and I'm drunk. I know people who have smoked weed from at least the age of 13. While I myself did not engage in this behavior at that age, I do notice them having particular difficulties in their engagement in society. They fit a certain bill that appears to coincide with their marijuana use at younger ages. They didn't give a shit about school. They were emboldened to take greater risks. Generally speaking they acted stupid and it appeared to have a lasting effect. Anecdotally I'll say that their marijuana use initiated at a younger pre-teen to teen age morphed them into a sub-typical person that can be spotted from a mile away unless they abstained from it for at least a decade after the age of 18 and are now 30.

As for the individuals that partook in a toke after the age of 21, they seem to fare no worse than the same persons that drank or tripped beginning at that age. Its a fact that I imagine that most who never smoked at all or never smoked until out of high school will attest to witnessing, at least admitting anonymously for fear of ostracizing too many friends. We all know too many "life" stoners, many of them probably having given it up because by 25 they realized it made them paranoid when they did it.

There seems to be a clear indication that marijuana use does indeed have a detrimental effect on the developing brain, and said brain comes near completion of its developmet around 25-26 years of age. The retardation of the development of wisdom and higher executive function is probably the underlying obstacle to the legalization of grass by those not susceptible to the "weed crazy", "refer madness" propaganda agenda. I think there are quite a few regular, comfortable doob smokers who treat it like a good glass of wine that are skeptical of legalizing it for all of society due to their experiences with the guy who was baked all the time in highschool and now doesn't really contribute all that much to society or the economy of America.

Let's face it with open and honest discussion, weed is not a harmless botanical substance delivered to us from God. It does carry risks to those most susceptible to deleterious effects, namely the mentally ill and young. You know what though? So does alcohol and to a greater and more destructive degree. The least marijuana legalization could afford this country, aside from the obvious relinquishment of burdens upon the justice and penal systems, is better control (while of course not perfect) of what age this substance can be purchased and consumed. A 35 year old productive employee in America is no real threat to the vitality of the country if he or she watches an art film after smoking a joint. However a 17 year old bong smashed out of their gourd, because, lets admit excess is the way of youth... not "I'm good with a hit or two", is a potential problem to the fabric of society with ramifications that could very well be lasting into the future. We as humans have coped with alcohol forever and have never come to a happy medium with it. It is the solvent that makes us laugh while at the same time rips us apart. However due to its prevalence over such a long time through our evolution as a species truly not wanting to kill each other and destroy everything, or rather what we aspire to be, we have become apathetic to its damage. Marijuana has only recently in terms of civilization come to the forefront of public debate. It does not propagate destructive tendencies in the vast majority of users, but requires a keen eye to its control by government. It is not harmless, but should be a valid consideration for its regulation and legalization. The danger of grass is in its ability to promote apathy and that's what scares those who haven't drank the "gateway drug", mind fucking cool-ade that's been driven into us by uncle sam.

It sort of boils down to; :"oh no, if weed was legal, nobody would give a shit and fight if aliens invaded us - we shouldn't allow it". Grass goes against the mainstream ideology of the promotion of fear and control because grass takes away fear while showing no definitive sign of removing judgement. Yes, marijuana could be a good thing for society but only for a society of mature adults who effectively and intelligently rationalize what is worth being afraid of.

I do not believe it should be used by teens. And those people that you know maybe use other drugs besides MJ. All I can tell you is that having never tired it into I was about 20 honestly is that I have some been I have been on lots of meds legally for things and nothing works like MJ. I quit drinking and MJ when given these meds and used them for months to years ends, It is a load of bull that it is illegal and if it was legal I be using it and my writing and life would be better. I been and MJ user for more then 10 years on and off and I am much better person on it. Here is and great article on how it helps fight cancer http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...lps-manage-side-effects-researchers-find.html
 

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NY cops raid 75 y.o. Grandmother, shoot dog all for several pot plants

Thank you "war on weed" for keeping every scared.

75 Year Old Grandmother Held Down at Gunpoint on Bathroom Floor by Wayne County, NY Sheriff's deputies and Macedon, NY Police as they Shoot and Kill her Dog. | Cop Block

75 Year Old Grandmother Held Down at Gunpoint on Bathroom Floor by Wayne County, NY Sheriff’s deputies and Macedon, NY Police as they Shoot and Kill her Dog.

By Davy V.

On August 15, 2012, Wayne County, New York Sheriff’s deputies, along with Macedon, NY Police broke into 75 year old Phyllis Loquasto’s Plank Road home in the town of Walworth, NY, forced her at gunpoint to lay on her bathroom floor, screamed at her to stay down, then executed her dog “Duke”.

Minutes earlier, Loquasto, who has had three strokes and a knee replacement, was on her computer when she heard loud smashing sounds, then saw what she described as several men dressed in black with masks on.

Loquasto said the men pushed her into the bathroom and told her to lay down and close her eyes.

As she was laying on her bathroom floor Loquasto could hear the men talking in loud voices. “The dog hadn’t even barked, yet I heard one of them say, he’s aggressive, shoot him! I’ll never forget the sound of that gunshot and the blood flying everywhere. They did all this while forcing me to lay on the bathroom floor, screaming at me to stay down, and holding me at gunpoint. I couldn’t get up if I wanted to. I’m 75 years old, had three strokes and knee replacement, and can hardly walk. *There was nothing I could do to help my pet.”

Unfortunately, Duke died a slow death. “They shot him with a shotgun in such a manner that he ran around in pain and bled all over the house and suffered a slow, cruel death. *There was no reason for this kind of treatment, they killed my dog for no reason. This was the sweetest and most gentle animal anyone could want, I would trust him with a baby.”

As you can see in the photo, Duke did indeed suffer, bleeding out throughout the house, leaving a trail of blood in the hallways, stairs, walls and bedrooms, including on the bed where he used to sleep in.

Afterwards, Phyllis Loquasto was taken outside and placed inside a police car for over an hour in the heat.

It was then when officers showed her a search warrant, and it was then that Loquasto realized who these masked men who had just broke into her home, held her at gunpoint, screamed at her and executed her dog were — police officers.

The 75 year old Loquasto was so afraid, she urinated on herself.

As a filmmaker, writer and activist exposing police misconduct and corruption, hearing stories of police officers abusing and violating innocent citizens’ rights is nothing new.

In fact I receive an average of 20-25 calls weekly from people who either themselves, or a loved one, has been abused, harassed, or assaulted by law enforcement.

But I must admit, to hear of a 75 year old lady having been terrorized in her own home by a bunch of rogue, thugs in uniforms and masks, in a “home invasion-like” style, before executing her dog, left me speechless.

I Called Macedon, NY police and asked to speak to a public information officer. The woman who answered the phone asked me “What’s that?” I explained to her it’s usually a department official who is in charge of communicating with the press.

She replied “We don’t have that.”

I then proceeded to tell her about the incident with Duke, and before I could finish, she angrily cut me off and said “I’m sure if a grandmother would have been held down at gunpoint, I would have heard about that.”

She then abruptly transferred me to the Chief, with whom I left a message on his voicemail.

About an hour later, I received a call from Macedon, NY Police Chief John P. Colella.

After I thanked him for getting back to me, Chief Colella laughed and said “The media campaign continues.”

I asked Chief Colella what he meant by that comment, but he completely ignored my question.

I then asked the Chief exactly what law enforcement agencies were present at the Plank Road residence.

Chief Colella said that a search warrant was executed by the Wayne County Narcotics Enforcement Team (WayneNET) on the residence.

He also said that he is the Task Force Commander.

Chief Colella told me that his task force seized several marijuana plants from the location, which he said belonged to Phyllis Loquasto’s grandson.

He explained that the WayneNET team consists of the Wayne County, NY Sheriff’s office, Macedon, NY Police, Clyde, NY Police, Lyons, NY Police, Newark, NY, Palmyra, NY Police, Sodus Point, NY Police, Wolcott, NY Police and the Wayne County, NY District Attorney’s office.

Chief Colella confirmed that the only person inside the location was 75 year old Phyllis Loquasto.

Having sensed an obvious sense of sarcasm on the Chief’s part, with his earlier comment, about the “media campaign continues”, as well as what I would describe as the non-chalant, hesitant, and “careful” tone of his voice, not giving many details, I decided to get down to brass tax with the Chief.

I asked him about police officers holding down a 75 year old grandmother at gunpoint on her bathroom floor, and it was clear that Chief Colella wasn’t comfortable answering my question.

But perhaps more interesting, he never denied officers doing this to Loquasto.

Instead, Chief Colella made sure to choose his words very carefully, stating that all he would say is that she (the grandmother) was “held in place” by officers.

Again, when I asked Chief Colella if in fact officers with his WayneNET task force held a 75 year old grandmother at gunpoint on her bathroom floor, Chief Colella replied “I don’t care if she is 2 years old or 75 years old.”

I think Chief Colella must have realized that his statement would not look good, so he decided to do some ‘damage control’ by quickly adding “We needed to secure the location and since there was a dangerous animal, we were holding her down for her own safety.”

Dangerous animal?

Duke was her pet.

After a few more minutes of talking with Chief Colella, it became more and more clear that as is common with law enforcement officials, especially in cases of misconduct and abuse, the “cover-up” was already in effect, and he clearly had his story which he has every intention of sticking to.

Contact Macedon, NY Police Chief John P. Colella and let him know how you feel.

Macedon, NY Police Chief

and WayneNET Commander

John P. Colella

(315) 986-4121 or (315) 986-7436

E-mail: jpcolella@rochester.rr.com

This is a picture of Duke :(
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This is his blood trail. :angry:
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^ those cops had no reason to kill the dogs, that is horrible story, but DEA keeps doing these things, RIP for the dog, and what a way to treat a grandmother, so terrible.:evil:
 

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The war on people continues...

Man Dies in Police Drug Raid on Wrong House - ABC News

A 61-year-old man was shot to death by police while his wife was handcuffed in another room during a drug raid on the wrong house.

Police admitted their mistake, saying faulty information from a drug informant contributed to the death of John Adams Wednesday night. They intended to raid the home next door.


The two officers, 25-year-old Kyle Shedran and 24-year-old Greg Day, were placed on administrative leave with pay.


“They need to get rid of those men, boys with toys,” said Adams’ 70-year-old widow, Loraine.


John Adams was watching television when his wife heard pounding on the door. Police claim they identified themselves and wore police jackets.


Loraine Adams said she had no indication the men were police.


“I thought it was a home invasion. I said ‘Baby, get your gun!,” she said, sitting amid friends and relatives gathered at her home to cook and prepare for Sunday’s funeral.


Police say her husband fired first with a sawed-off shotgun and they responded. He was shot at least three times and died later at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville.


Loraine Adams said she was handcuffed and thrown to her knees in another room when the shooting began.


“I said, ‘Y’all have got the wrong person, you’ve got the wrong place. What are you looking for?“‘


“We did the best surveillance we could do, and a mistake was made,” Lebanon Police Chief Billy Weeks said. “It’s a very severe mistake, a costly mistake. It makes us look at our own policies and procedures to make sure this never occurs again.”


He said, however, the two policemen were not at fault.


The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation is investigating. NAACP officials said they are monitoring the case. Adams was black. The two policemen are white.


Family members did not consider race a factor and Weeks agreed, but said the shooting will be “a major setback” for police relations with the black community.


“We know that, we hope to do everything we can to heal it,” Weeks said.


Johnny Crudup, a local NAACP official, said the organization wanted to make sure and would investigate on its own.


Weeks said he has turned the search warrant and all other evidence over to the bureau of investigation and District Attorney General Tommy Thompson. A command officer must now review all search warrants.

Is what we should expect of life in America today? Where heavily armed men break down your door and you don't know if it's cops or criminals? All this just for drugs? :angry:
 

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SWAT teams are an unconstitutional, unregulated, non-military form of unit whose purpose as defined as being for law enforcement constitutes a para-military organization for the lethal combat against the citizens of the United States in the interests of the government. We have all allowed a standing army to be fielded against ourselves. Land of the free?
 

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Know what's funny? They are voting on Amendment 64 here in Colorado in November, which, if approved would make week COMPLETELY legal, up to 1oz, and not just for medical use, for anyone 21 and over to purchase. But the kicker is I don't even smoke, and wouldn't even if they made it legal, because it would still be illegal on a federal level, and I don't want to lose my goverment job.
 
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