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    Quote Originally Posted by riverc0il View Post
    1) you have to go public to do segments which is kind of the point (social networking) but I'd like to compete against myself on segments rather than others
    I created my first segment in Strava the other day and learned that you can mark them as private.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvibert View Post
    I created my first segment in Strava the other day and learned that you can mark them as private.
    And it keeps track of your attempts at that segment in private too? Either I didn't know what I was doing or that is a great new feature. It seemed like I had to have my data public to see my segments. Same is true right now for RWGPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riverc0il View Post
    And it keeps track of your attempts at that segment in private too? Either I didn't know what I was doing or that is a great new feature. It seemed like I had to have my data public to see my segments. Same is true right now for RWGPS.
    I'm not sure about that, I left mine public.

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    Ah. Unless they changed it, when you go private you no longer can see your segments.
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    Looks like Strava is getting sued:

    http://www.mobilesportsreport.com/20...cident-deaths/

    Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. How could Strava possibly be responsible to ensure the safety of every route that users upload? The whole idea seems ludicrous to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvibert View Post
    Looks like Strava is getting sued:

    http://www.mobilesportsreport.com/20...cident-deaths/

    Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. How could Strava possibly be responsible to ensure the safety of every route that users upload? The whole idea seems ludicrous to me.
    It was only a matter of time before someone got killed trying to break a Strava record. But I didn't anticipate the associated law suit. This law suit is asinine on so many levels. Makes you wonder if the rider that got killed would approve. Apparently, 41 year old men need Strava to personally certify every segment and provide speed guidelines (what about weather effects?). So much for personal responsibility and the desire to pursue outdoor activities in which exceeding previously generally accepted limits is not only encouraged but part of the very fabric of sport.
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    More information:
    http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...g-death_224889

    Including these two gems:

    The rider was descending at over 40 MPH and the posted speed limit is 30 MPH. I'm not going to call foul on breaking the speed limit but I am going to call foul on blaming a third party that is basically a reporting site. You can't blame someone else when something bad happens when you are breaking the law intended to prevent the exact accident that happened.

    The rider was killed when breaking trying to avoid a car. Basically, user error. The rider was going too fast and was not in control of his bike. We can speculate as to what happened but any one that is descended a hill well knows that thought process of when to break and when not to break depending on numerous factors including narrowness of road, curves in the road, traffic, ability to take the lane, knowledge or road, etc. Sucks he died trying to break a record but people die trying to break records all the time.

    Finally, I will submit that Strava is a reporting web site... an aggregator of data. It doesn't in and of itself actively encourage its users to recklessly pursue speed records at any cost. It doesn't tell its users to break the speed limit. Obviously, such a site by its nature does these things passively. However, I would compare this to the Guinness Book of World Records which does pretty much the same thing. It tracks records and publishes them which by human nature encourages other people to break said records.
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    The 30%

    Quote Originally Posted by bvibert View Post
    Looks like Strava is getting sued:

    http://www.mobilesportsreport.com/20...cident-deaths/

    Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. How could Strava possibly be responsible to ensure the safety of every route that users upload? The whole idea seems ludicrous to me.

    I saw this for the first time today on Velonews and figured it would make a great AZ thread but you guys beat me to it!

    “His family basically wants justice for him,” said Susan Kang, the Flint family’s attorney, to ABC
    My bet is Susan Kang wants 30% + Expenses

    I feel bad for the family and who knows what their financial situation is. I'm sure they blame Strava for the death of their loved one and it's got to be ultra hard to take a pass on the cash that a lawsuit would provide. I wonder what percentage of lawsuits are of this nature. Seems like we've developed a great American Industry and more jobs for the future.

    Using Ski Tacks Apps this past winter did make me ski a little faster from time to time but that was the risk I took. Now let's say I hit a tree and got killed, would my family have the strength to not bring a lawsuit against Ski Tracks? That's what insurance is for, and I'm sure Ski Tracks has plenty.......

    Signed up for Strava today and will check it out, will be careful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmarks View Post
    “His family basically wants justice for him,” said Susan Kang, the Flint family’s attorney, to ABC
    Maybe Strava should put him down as the fastest time on the part he did complete as justice for him.

    Sad he got killed, but even sadder they filed a lawsuit.
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    Been using this on my road rides for about a week now. It's a much cleaner interface than MapMyRide and the way it tracks elevation gain actually makes sense.



    As I expected I am at the bottom of the pack on all the climbing segments on my ussual rides. Not dead last but not far off.....man I'm slow!

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