Inside Edition investigates pot-smoking skiers at Breckenridge

spring_mountain_high · Feb 27, 2014

i would bet most of what i have that the entire inside edition segment was a set up, complete with fake 'stoners', funded by an organization that has a vested interest in maintaining the failed prohibition of cannabis...it is idiotic beyond belief

and all the nanny staters should be rallying to dynamite all the bars next...alcohol is, by any objective metric, a MUCH more dangerous substance

bdfreetuna · Feb 27, 2014

Nick said:
Honestly, how many people do you think would smoke for the first time because it becomes legal?

Look at Portugal, where most common recreational drugs were decriminalized a decade ago. Since then, according to Forbes, "drug abuse is down by 50%".

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...lization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/

SkiNEwhere ... what you are saying seems suggest that most people who don't already smoke pot, would prefer to do so if it were only for the issue of legality.

What my observations of life lead me to believe is that most people who like to smoke pot are already doing so.

HowieT2 · Feb 27, 2014

bdfreetuna said:
Look at Portugal, where most common recreational drugs were decriminalized a decade ago. Since then, according to Forbes, "drug abuse is down by 50%".

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...lization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/

SkiNEwhere ... what you are saying seems suggest that most people who don't already smoke pot, would prefer to do so if it were only for the issue of legality.

What my observations of life lead me to believe is that most people who like to smoke pot are already doing so.

+1

i cant imagine there is anyone who hasnt smoked pot because it is "illegal"

skiNEwhere · Feb 27, 2014

bdfreetuna said:
Look at Portugal, where most common recreational drugs were decriminalized a decade ago. Since then, according to Forbes, "drug abuse is down by 50%".

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...lization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/

SkiNEwhere ... what you are saying seems suggest that most people who don't already smoke pot, would prefer to do so if it were only for the issue of legality.

Not prefer, but be at least curious to experiment with it or try it once if it were legal

Cannonball · Feb 27, 2014

skiNEwhere said:
I think one major issue though that can't be overlooked now is that colorado is associated with legal weed on some levels. So when ski tourists come to CO, and they've never smoked pot, they are gonna try it.

I don't think this is all that true. Maybe a few first-timers will try it. But I think it's definitely true that people who already like to smoke will give greater consideration to CO as a ski destination over other places. It's absolutely true for me. On my last few trips I've chosen UT over CO based on weighing all the factors. But now I may be back to choosing CO.

AdironRider · Feb 27, 2014

Cannonball said:
I don't think this is all that true. Maybe a few first-timers will try it. But I think it's definitely true that people who already like to smoke will give greater consideration to CO as a ski destination over other places. It's absolutely true for me. On my last few trips I've chosen UT over CO based on weighing all the factors. But now I may be back to choosing CO.

I haven't read the whole thread, but a bunch of stoners cant afford legal weed currently. 150 a quarter in Crested Butte!

Cannonball · Feb 27, 2014

AdironRider said:
I haven't read the whole thread, but a bunch of stoners cant afford legal weed currently. 150 a quarter in Crested Butte!

Wow, that's some horrible shopping skills. Are they buying at ski resort cafeterias or something? That's about 4x the average.

jack97 · Feb 27, 2014

skiNEwhere said:
Not prefer, but be at least curious to experiment with it or try it once if it were legal

lol..... skier demographics shows the participant are the tail end of baby boomers generation or so. That puts them in the sweet spot of the drug culture. So we're not talking about trying something new.... its more like going down memory lane.

AdironRider · Feb 27, 2014

Cannonball said:
Wow, that's some horrible shopping skills. Are they buying at ski resort cafeterias or something? That's about 4x the average.

Don't confuse medical prices with retail, medical down in CB was only like 65 bucks for the same amount. I suspect being the only game within a 3 hour drive didn't help the prices I paid in CB. There was only one retail spot open in the town, so they had the market cornered.

bdfreetuna · Feb 27, 2014

AdironRider said:
I haven't read the whole thread, but a bunch of stoners cant afford legal weed currently. 150 a quarter in Crested Butte!

That's what it will cost on Stowe access road in 2 to 4 years.

Hopefully these absurd legal weed prices I've been hearing don't drive up the price of black market (now grey market in some places) ganja.

deadheadskier · Feb 27, 2014

bdfreetuna said:
That's what it will cost on Stowe access road in 2 to 4 years.

Hopefully these absurd legal weed prices I've been hearing don't drive up the price of black market (now grey market in some places) ganja.

You can't buy weed in Stowe. Everyone grows there own. Its probably the most pot friendly town Ive ever resided in. Even more so than Burlington

skiNEwhere · Feb 27, 2014

AdironRider said:
I haven't read the whole thread, but a bunch of stoners cant afford legal weed currently. 150 a quarter in Crested Butte!

So what's "normal" "market price"?

skiNEwhere · Feb 27, 2014

Press release

BROOMFIELD, Colo. – Feb. 26, 2014 – Vail Resorts and the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) have confirmed that a number of structures associated with prohibited marijuana use and constructed illegally on USFS lands within the permitted boundaries of the company’s four Colorado resorts have been destroyed over the past several weeks.
Vail Resorts works closely with the Forest Service each year to eliminate these illegal structures, commonly referred to as ‘smoke shacks’, as they are made aware of them. In the past year, mountain operations teams and USFS officials have destroyed several structures at its Vail, Beaver Creek, Breckenridge and Keystone resorts.
“The safety of our guests and our employees is our highest priority and we therefore take a zero tolerance approach to skiing or riding under the influence,” said Blaise Carrig, president of Vail Resorts’ Mountain Division.“We do not permit the consumption of marijuana in or on any of our lifts, facilities or premises that we control. In addition to destroying illegal structures where this kind of illegal activity may be taking place, we are communicating the legalities around marijuana use with our guests and the community through signage, our websites, social media, and handing out informational cards to our guests in the base areas. We want the public to know that the consequences of being caught smoking marijuana on our mountains are removal from the mountain and the suspension of skiing and riding privileges.”
In spite of the passage of Amendment 64 last fall, public consumption of marijuana continues to be illegal under Colorado law. In addition, possession and consumption of marijuana continues to be illegal under federal law. Vail Resorts’ four Colorado ski resorts – Vail, Beaver Creek, Breckenridge and Keystone – are all located on U.S. Forest Service land, where possession and consumption of marijuana is illegal. In addition, using any ski lift or ski slope or trail while under the influence of drugs and alcohol is prohibited under the Colorado Ski Safety Act.
“Despite Colorado law, marijuana remains illegal on federal lands period,” said Scott Fitzwilliams, forest supervisor for the White River National Forest. “For the 22 ski areas in Colorado that operate on national forest system lands, marijuana is still prohibited. Let me remind everyone that you can be cited and fined for marijuana use and possession on national forests. I will also add that it is against the law for anyone to build any structures on national forest system lands without a permit.”
Furthermore, there is “no smoking” of any kind (tobacco, marijuana or e-cigarettes) permitted in any Vail Resorts owned andoperated facilities, including restaurants, lodges and hotels, and officials will continue to enforce that policy. Vail Resorts will work with local law enforcement and the U.S. Forest Service to continue to closely monitor any illegal activity within the permitted boundaries of their resorts and will take immediate action against those who do not comply with the law.

BenedictGomez · Feb 27, 2014

bdfreetuna said:
Look at Portugal, where most common recreational drugs were decriminalized a decade ago. Since then, according to Forbes, "drug abuse is down by 50%".

I would imagine pretty much anything that is purchased with money is "down" by a substantial amount in Portugal over the last decade, not sure that's the best example. Especially expensive things not necessary for survival. Other than Greece, it's the worst of the PIGS.

deadheadskier · Feb 27, 2014

BenedictGomez said:
I would imagine pretty much anything that is purchased with money is "down" by a substantial amount in Portugal over the last decade, not sure that's the best example. Especially expensive things not necessary for survival. Other than Greece, it's the worst of the PIGS.

Netherlands a better example? Cannabis use is nearly half that of the USA.

AdironRider · Feb 27, 2014

skiNEwhere said:
So what's "normal" "market price"?

Couldn't tell ya for Colorado, but up here in Jackson its 100 bucks a quarter or 300 an ounce, with absolutely zero regard (in terms of pricing) for quality. Sometimes its the best stuff around, other times its shit, but its always priced the same. That being said, I think we tend towards the higher end, back East I was paying about 20% less give or take. These are black market prices in my neck of the woods. To be honest I don't mind paying the added amount for a couple reasons, I can afford it, and I'll gladly pay a bit more to support the cause and not have my name on a list.

BenedictGomez · Feb 27, 2014

deadheadskier said:
Netherlands a better example? Cannabis use is nearly half that of the USA.

On a percent basis you mean?

Hasnt the Netherlands open drug policy turned into a trainwreck though? I thought they were actually looking into adding restrictions. Banning tourists from the shops etc.... due to problems caused and all that.

skiNEwhere · Feb 27, 2014

I found a website that lists all the smokeshacks. Seems like all the Colorado resorts have at least a half dozen. That's kind of crazy how far the weed subculture extends.

This is the coolest one I've seen yet, it's a treehouse! (At Breck as well)

But that one got blown up a few years ago as well

Bene288 · Feb 27, 2014

Destroying a cabin in the middle of the woods where people are known to ski and hike seems stupid. It's shelter if anyone were to get stuck overnight.

deadheadskier · Feb 27, 2014

BenedictGomez said:
On a percent basis you mean?

Hasnt the Netherlands open drug policy turned into a trainwreck though? I thought they were actually looking into adding restrictions. Banning tourists from the shops etc.... due to problems caused and all that.

Yes percentage. The restrictions they have put in place are not on nationals. The problems are with tourists acting like idiots and not being discrete. Nothing has changed rules wise with residents.

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