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    Summer Arctic Ice

    I know some of has been following Bastardi during the winter for his storm forecast however I have been following his blog and other stuff....



    Here's an interesting piece of news... arctic ice coverage may be on the rise. This was the same trend last year, if so, the long warming trend will be gone and the cold trend will be upon us. We may get another winter like the one we just had. Yeah! bring on that polar vortex.

    Beware its political... Bastardi thinks AGW is nothing but garbage science and a power grab, so this piece is in a "conservative" site.

    http://patriotpost.us/opinion/25340
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    FYI. Take what you want from this slanted view also.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/weathe...sment/8736743/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck it View Post
    FYI. Take what you want from this slanted view also.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/weathe...sment/8736743/

    yep, nice piece of propaganda. Anytime they cite the 97% by Cook is great pr, that paper will go down in history as one of the greatest forms of propaganda.



    btw... back to the op which was about arctic melt, here's another write up from Epstein, former boston area met.

    http://www.boston.com/news/weather/w..._antarcti.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack97 View Post
    yep, nice piece of propaganda. Anytime they cite the 97% by Cook is great pr, that paper will go down in history as one of the greatest forms of propaganda.
    Speaking of propaganda.

    News of another intentional scientific suppression of a researcher's work (again) refuting man-made Global Warming breaking today.

    This times it's even got a bit of cattiness to it, as the researcher used to be a proponent of man-made Global Warming but no longer believes the hypothesis.

    Study suggesting global warming is exaggerated was rejected for publication in respected journal

    Prof Bengtsson’s paper suggests that the Earth’s environment might be much less sensitive to greenhouse gases than previously thought. If he and his four co-authors are correct, it would mean that carbon dioxide and other pollutants are having a far less severe impact on climate than green activists would have us believe. The research, if made public, would be a huge challenge to the finding of the UN’s Intergovernmental panel on Climate Change (IPCC), that the global average temperature would rise by up to 4.5C if greenhouse gases in the atmosphere were allowed to double. The paper suggested that the climate might be less sensitive to greenhouse gases than had been claimed by the IPCC in its report last September, and recommended that more work be carried out ‘to reduce the underlying uncertainty’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenedictGomez View Post
    Speaking of propaganda.

    News of another intentional scientific suppression of a researcher's work (again) refuting man-made Global Warming breaking today.

    This times it's even got a bit of cattiness to it, as the researcher used to be a proponent of man-made Global Warming but no longer believes the hypothesis.

    Study suggesting global warming is exaggerated was rejected for publication in respected journal




    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...professor.html


    yep, he's been in the field since 1975 and was involved with the UN/IPCC process. imo, he's doing what any top notch scientist would do. If the observations does not match the hypothesis, you question the hypothesis. some of these so call top climate scientist do not even question correlation implies causality, so it does not surprise me that he is getting booted off the island.


    btw, speaking of observations, here's the page that Bastardi and Epstein referenced about sea ice. If some of the so called leading climatologist are concern about the rate of temperature rise (before the 17-18 year plateau) the sea index will show the arctic sea ice rate of melt is on the decline. Antarctic sea index is on the rise. I recalled some hand waving explanation that the antarctic sea ice has nothing to do with AGW but that given by a scientist/UN official who had everything to gain by promoting AGW.

    http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/
    Last edited by jack97; May 17, 2014 at 5:47 AM.
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    Here we go again

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMadWorld View Post
    Here we go again
    For what? The discussion or the artic ice shrinking.
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    or the antarctic ice expanding

    or we can tie this with the great lake ice coverage

    or we can tied this in with the endless winter discussion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck it View Post
    For what? The discussion or the artic ice shrinking.
    All the uber techie talk

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