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This thread exists why?
to discuss the camelback lodge and indoor water park?
haven't been in years, but have meant to go back...this will make me less likely to go back
The eight-story, 533,000 square-foot, 453-suite mountain-modern architectural style hotel will feature a nearly 170,000 square-foot indoor entertainment center comprised of an 82-degree, 125,000 square-foot, highly-themed, indoor adventure waterpark -- the largest in the eastern U.S. There will be 30,000 square feet of dry play amusement including an arcade, game center, kids’ club activity center, ropes course, mini-golf, laser tag and more. Guests can enjoy a 10,000 square-foot luxury spa and fitness center, four new restaurants, each with a unique menu and ambiance, including a ski-in ski-out bar and outdoor patio at the base of the mountain; 25,000 square feet of meeting and conference space will be available.
The waterpark alone will draw some people to the hotel, no?
that, plus they are so close to major population centers
to discuss the camelback lodge and indoor water park?
haven't been in years, but have meant to go back...this will make me less likely to go back
There might be an upside to it as well. There has always been talk of expansion to the east on to the area that once was the Big Pocono Ski Run. Assuming they got the proper land and permits, new trails could actually increase the current vertical from 800 to 1000 ft. I still think its a fun mountain when completely open (They have good snowmaking so that is usually the case) and not overrun.
Alex
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
The east side of the mountain won't increase vertical, just "horizontal". The ridge is actually slightly lower over there. However, that's where the steepest terrain on the mountain is, and what Camelback really needs is more advanced terrain.
Yes it would. They would be able to take runs down to the Pocono Creek which is where the old ski area had its base. (near the present base of the tubing hill). The talk is of a fixed grip lift which would actually compliment Stevenson Express which is most prone to wind closures.
Alex
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
Yes it would. They would be able to take runs down to the Pocono Creek which is where the old ski area had its base. (near the present base of the tubing hill). The talk is of a fixed grip lift which would actually compliment Stevenson Express which is most prone to wind closures.
I call that sort of thing, "fake vertical". It's technically vertical, but it's lame.
With Camelback, even if they did expand east, their lift would most likely travel from the new lower base area to the sub peak located on the eastern side. So in effect, they can state a higher vertical, but most, if not all skier would never ski that larger vertical drop. With all that said, do a google search for True Vertical, there is a website dedicated to documenting this.
Where is this sub peak of which you speak? Camelback is pretty much a ridge, Sullivan and Stevenson quads end at virtually the same elevation despite being about a 1/2 mile apart. A new lift coming up from the creek would be ending somewhere in the vicinity of the Stevenson in large part to allow skiing the east side in windy conditions.
Alex
Lake Hopatcong, NJ