$1M for Mittersill "improvement project"

Cannonball · Aug 21, 2014

bobbutts said:
Agree. I'm saying there was a point where people just started disagreeing with everything he said due to his agenda and their personal dislike of him. His valid points were lost.

Exactly. And that is what really bothers me about him and his approach. The decision making and financials at Cannon deserve some serious and objective scrutiny. I question a lot of what is going on there. When he brings his clearly biased and seriously devious methods to the conversation it is extremely polarizing. It makes it impossible to have an informed discussion. Nobody likes to feel like they are being manipulated to serve a hidden agenda. So, exactly as you say, his valid points get lumped in with his agenda and essentially rule out the ability to discuss it sensibly.

I'm glad he's not doing here anymore. But as you know, he is still at it elsewhere.

SIKSKIER · Sep 3, 2014

Here you go guys.There is a facebook page on Mittersill.
https://www.facebook.com/MittersillTrailImprovementproject?ref=br_tf

MadMadWorld · Sep 3, 2014

That's just depressing

Puck it · Sep 3, 2014

MadMadWorld said:
That's just depressing

The trail has not been the same since the lift went in anyways. Still plenty of stuff to play in over there.

Savemeasammy · Sep 3, 2014

MadMadWorld said:
That's just depressing

Why? I haven't skied Mittersill, but it seems like cleaning up the trails is a good thing. Are you thinking they will be grooming?

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skiberg · Sep 3, 2014

It looks to me like a lot of the cutting is the lower part of the trail. However, I know the tree islands are coming out this year, as part of this cut I presume. Snowmaking is NOT going in this year, so it will still be skied on natural snow this season.

Puck it · Sep 3, 2014

Savemeasammy said:
Why? I haven't skied Mittersill, but it seems like cleaning up the trails is a good thing. Are you thinking they will be grooming?

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They have groomed a couple times in the last two years.

MadMadWorld · Sep 3, 2014

I just get this sinking feeling they are just trying to rip the band aid slowly off. I think it's downhill from here.

Puck it · Sep 3, 2014

MadMadWorld said:
I just get this sinking feeling they are just trying to rip the band aid slowly off. I think it's downhill from here.

The bigger question is: Will there be erosion?

skiberg · Sep 3, 2014

Its a limited approval from the state. snowmaking will be on Barons and another trail, skiers left off the top, that will cut back and connect into Barons Snowmaking will also be on the lower part, when they cut to open it up for racing. That's it. No approval for anything else. snowmaking may actually help direct skiers who should not really be there to specific trails and keep them off the side-country stuff. There is still a ton of terrain off the top that is only hike accessible. This will have no effect on these trails. I think Barons,with snowmaking will be the best ripper on the hill; longest continuous vert around.

MadMadWorld · Sep 3, 2014

skiberg said:
Its a limited approval from the state. snowmaking will be on Barons and another trail, skiers left off the top, that will cut back and connect into Barons Snowmaking will also be on the lower part, when they cut to open it up for racing. That's it. No approval for anything else. snowmaking may actually help direct skiers who should not really be there to specific trails and keep them off the side-country stuff. There is still a ton of terrain off the top that is only hike accessible. This will have no effect on these trails. I think Barons,with snowmaking will be the best ripper on the hill; longest continuous vert around.

I thought someone said the old tbar line was going to go away too. Maybe it's just angry Cannon pass holders blowing smoke

skiberg · Sep 3, 2014

You are right the old T-bar line is set to be cut eventually. However that's such an obvious line now. It's skied out in a couple hours. I loved that line 20 years ago but now it's mundane.

Puck it · Sep 3, 2014

MadMadWorld said:
I thought someone said the old tbar line was going to go away too. Maybe it's just angry Cannon pass holders blowing smoke

It is going away. They going to cut the old Taft slope to the original width. This means the T-bar line is gone. The snowmaking from the top will be down Barons all the way and from Skyline to the Taft slope.

Puck it · Sep 3, 2014

skiberg said:
You are right the old T-bar line is set to be cut eventually. However that's such an obvious line now. It's skied out in a couple hours. I loved that line 20 years ago but now it's mundane.

Agree, but it still hold the snow better than others on the mtn.

The question also is "When odes the bar go in!!!!!!!"

skiberg · Sep 3, 2014

Its going to be a bit. They still need to finish fundraising for Barons. Which by the way is now an "Official US Ski team training site". In other words there is some big money behind this. Apparently the old Taft Slope is a very, very good hill to race train on. US ski team as scouted it. They love the slope and that they can train athletes on Eastern man-made hardpack early season. Apparently its closest to Euro race snow. So its probably going to happen sooner rather than late.

deadheadskier · Sep 3, 2014

skiberg said:
I think Barons,with snowmaking will be the best ripper on the hill; longest continuous vert around.

You watch your mouth buddy. I know change is inevitable, but don't egg this type of operation on. Next thing you know, they'll be throwing snowmaking and grooming in on Hardscrabble.

skiberg · Sep 3, 2014

Its funny, I've been lucky enough to poach hardscrabble a few times right after grooming and I must day its an absolute blast.I agree though, I like it nasty.

Puck it · Sep 3, 2014

skiberg said:
Its going to be a bit.

I meant the drink bar.:dunce:

Puck it · Sep 3, 2014

skiberg said:
Its funny, I've been lucky enough to poach hardscrabble a few times right after grooming and I must day its an absolute blast.I agree though, I like it nasty.

I think you mean Upper HArd. I have never seen Mid Hard groomed. And I always poach it.

skiberg · Sep 3, 2014

Nope, Mid hard groomed. very rare but lots of fun. Ski's a bit like Upper ravine, but on steroids.

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