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2015 Binding Discussion

deadheadskier

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Anyone have experience with these? I'm looking for new bindings for my Nordica Steadfast. Something that keeps my boot close to the ski and has minimal impact on the skis flex.
 

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I have several older pivots.... Have no problem, pivot/axial relatively heavy binding iirc 1--2lb over marker grifons
 

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Not too concerned about the weight. The Steadfast is a really light ski.

I'm mostly interested in snow feel / terrain feedback. The Dukes leave something to be desired in that regard.
 

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On my skis I'm using pivot/axial and marker griffons. Can't say binding make any difference. imo you can't go wrong with either one
I suggest demo version. you thx me later
 

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I don't care lol
maybe you don't know what you're missing:roll:

I simply trying to help you to get most performance out of your new skis
 
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I'm not interested in position adjustment on the hill. I prefer a neutral mount point position.

I am interested in high elasticit/retention and low stand height for maximum terrain feedback.

The Look Pivot / Rossi FKS is supposed to excel at both these characteristics.

That is why I am asking for feedback on them. ;)
 

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My Dynastar skis came with Look NX 12 bindings. I've been pretty happy with them. They're mounted on a one piece rack system, not sure if they all come this way. I don't know how much that affects the natural flex of my skis. I've got 2 1/2 seasons on them so far & haven't had any problems with them. Never had premature release with them but they did release when they were supposed to. I'm not a gear junkie or expert on the subject but like I said I've been happy with them
 

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Thanks, but the Pivot is completely different technology from your bindings. I'm looking for feedback specific to the Pivot or Rossi FKS.

Issues with prereleases, but still working well in twisting falls as the back turntable design is engineered to do.

Reviews around the internet suggest they are some of the best bindings on the market for off piste / tree skiing etc.

I'd just like to hear feedback from anyone I might "know" (forum members) on this exact binding design.
 

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Never skied them - typically out of my price range so I generally ski the Look PX 12 however I do keep checking them out.

this vid does a decent job presenting them

 

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Funny you mentioned pivots seeing as I just made a post on ES about this.... I was looking for a setup as well, and they practically cost more than the skis I'm mounting them on. Any idea what kind (12, 14, 16, etc...) you're leaning towards? I have dukes as well and agree the feedback is lacking. Don't think any AT setup can give you that.

I found an alright deal on pivots, this is with a 75mm brake though which is what I was specifically looking for. You can find some deals on backcounty.com as well, keep in mind though that if you find a deal, it's probably with an undesirable brake width like a 130. I looked into getting a different brake and they seem to be prohibitively expensive.
 

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Funny you mentioned pivots seeing as I just made a post on ES about this.... I was looking for a setup as well, and they practically cost more than the skis I'm mounting them on. Any idea what kind (12, 14, 16, etc...) you're leaning towards? I have dukes as well and agree the feedback is lacking. Don't think any AT setup can give you that.

I found an alright deal on pivots, this is with a 75mm brake though which is what I was specifically looking for. You can find some deals on backcounty.com as well, keep in mind though that if you find a deal, it's probably with an undesirable brake width like a 130. I looked into getting a different brake and they seem to be prohibitively expensive.

Same boat. All the prices I'm seeing are more than what I paid for the Nordica Steadfast I'd be mounting them on. I'm looking for the 95 break width as the Steadfast is 90mm underfoot. I typically ski a 9.5-10 DIN, so I think I'd be fine with the 120.

The Rossi FKS are even more expensive despite being the exact same binding, but I like the color better. :lol:

In the past, I have had good solid bindings last me longer than skis, but I'm not sure I want to spend $200+ on bindings. I could go with a lesser priced binding like an Axial120, but I've owned them in the past, had release issues and broke them. Doesn't seem worth it to save $100.
 

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Does having a wider toe piece hold any appeal for a wider waisted ski? I've been using the Rossi Axial ti 14 with great success over the last 8 yrs...they are all metal and have held up very well.

I'm thinking of the Axial for the Blizzards and maybe the Marker Griffons for the Steadfasts. It's difficult to tell how much of the binding is metal vs plastic though.

These below are the direct replacements for the bindings I have now..with an 80 mm brake and matching colors would be perfect for the Blizzards.
Like that they seem mostly all metal.

http://www.evo.com/outlet/alpine-sk...-120-mfx-ski-bindings-2014-solar-detail-1.jpg
 
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Not sure. I read the thread skiNEwhere posted on epicski and someone gave a good endorsement for the Salomon STH. It appears that toe is a wide design as you describe.. I like the Salomon toe piece design better than Marker.

The STH can be had for about $160.
 

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Same boat. All the prices I'm seeing are more than what I paid for the Nordica Steadfast I'd be mounting them on. I'm looking for the 95 break width as the Steadfast is 90mm underfoot. I typically ski a 9.5-10 DIN, so I think I'd be fine with the 120.

The Rossi FKS are even more expensive despite being the exact same binding, but I like the color better. :lol:

In the past, I have had good solid bindings last me longer than skis, but I'm not sure I want to spend $200+ on bindings. I could go with a lesser priced binding like an Axial120, but I've owned them in the past, had release issues and broke them. Doesn't seem worth it to save $100.


These come in just under $200, brake might be too wide: http://www.levelninesports.com/Look-2015-Pivot-12-Ski-Bindings
 

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Thanks. Tempting, but I wonder if I'll have issues with brake hang up when arcing over the 90mm Steadfast.

Have you skied the Pivot Waloaf? If so, thoughts?
 

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Thanks. Tempting, but I wonder if I'll have issues with brake hang up when arcing over the 90mm Steadfast.

Have you skied the Pivot Waloaf? If so, thoughts?

No, my most recent binding purchase was some Tyrolia attack 13s. They have a 95/97ish brake and I'm using them on Watea 84s and haven't had any hang-ups with the brakes.
 
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