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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Riverskier View Post
    I have only been to Saddleback once and loved the place. However, the line for the double was out of control. Didn't effect my day that much or my decision to return, as the terrain I wanted to ski was off the Kennebago which was ski on. However, if I was there to ski off the double I would be hesitant to return, so I understand where the long line perception comes from even if it is only the case a small % of days. Of course I told people how much I loved the place, but also about the lines, so I guess I am part of the problem.
    We generally go there for the RSNE weekend at least for the past four years. We always have fun. Our strategy is to ride the double and then lap/ski the Kennebago Quad. If the line is too long, take the double chair next to the lodge (Sandy) and scoot over to the Cupsuptic T-bar and ski "The Pass" (mountain traverse) over to Kennebago Quad or lap the T-bar. Basically I may ride the Rangeley Double about twice in a day - waste of time!

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  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by machski View Post
    They will never find a buyer in my opinion if the keep the ski area sale separated from the mountain real estate property. That is how they have it now and I don't see a buyer for just the ski resort operation. They will need to sell both to find a buyer so I am not convinced they want to sell "really bad". They may want to shed the operations of the ski area if it is bleeding money, but holding onto the real estate tells me they still think long term SB has growth potential.
    Agreed. No one is buying the place unless an abundance of slope side real estate is included.

  3. #83
    The Balsams project can't make a sale of SB any easier.

  4. #84
    Bottom line, for the masses (I.E. the folks who ski resorts make most of their $$ off of) Saddleback is always going to be perceived as being a LONG ride into the middle of cold nowhere to sit on some slow lifts. That is a combo that will make it tough for them to get what they really need, which is a yearly increase of 10-25k plus visitors....
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  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by drjeff View Post
    Bottom line, for the masses (I.E. the folks who ski resorts make most of their $$ off of) Saddleback is always going to be perceived as being a LONG ride into the middle of cold nowhere to sit on some slow lifts. That is a combo that will make it tough for them to get what they really need, which is a yearly increase of 10-25k plus visitors....
    Funny the ride up does not seem that bad due to excitement I guess but the ride home seems long as hell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xwhaler View Post
    I would argue that Smuggs is much more of a destination resort than Saddleback. Smuggs has an award winning ski school, a lot of condo build out, multiple restaurants, pools, hot tubs etc.
    Saddleback ski school and the terrain they teach on is excellent but they don't really have the other amenities that makes doing a week long vacation quite as easy with a family. Folks at Smuggs are willing to deal with the slow doubles since the build out is already there and there is much more to do beyond the skiing.
    Also Smuggs draws from a greater local population base---Burlington and surrounding towns is more built up than Rangeley.
    The town of Rangeley is great but is a bit detached from the mountain as well.
    Smuggs does a pretty good summer business also from what I saw. Passed by 2 weeks ago & the Morse parking lot was pretty full. I drove up the road where all the condo development is & that also looked to be pretty full. This was on a weekday. A lot more activity going on at Smuggs than at Stowe. So busy in fact they had several shuttle vans driving around the area.

  7. #87
    I haven't been in 7 years but I remember the town of Rangely being pretty small with a couple motels and maybe 3 places to eat. Completely take over by sledders in the winter.
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    It's a very small village on a lake known for its history of trout DNA. Two of the best known river systems in the state , for trout fishing, flow into the lake, but that's it...and snomobiling. Skiing runs behind fishing in Maine. A completely different scene from Vermont and NH. Rangeley is out in the lesser developed/populated woodlands of Maine..ie rural...in comparison to Vermont or New Hampshire...where more developed highways helps customer travel and elevation with big mountains that would seem to make running a ski resort pretty easy. Idiots who can't manage a three car funeral are out there....everywhere...today, but I wonder if Les Otten couldn't make something of the place....y/n?
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    Rangeley has grown quite a bit for those who haven't been up there in years. There are a bunch of yr round and seasonal restaurants, a bowling alley, retail shops, multiple marinas around the lake, 2 golf courses, etc.
    It's not Burlington or anything remotely close but compared to say Carabassett Valley there is much more going on as a 4 season destination.
    I'll be up there over Labor Day wknd (rented a cabin on the lake with my family) and can try and upload some pics if anyone is interested.
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  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by xwhaler View Post
    I would argue that Smuggs is much more of a destination resort than Saddleback. Smuggs has an award winning ski school, a lot of condo build out, multiple restaurants, pools, hot tubs etc.
    Saddleback ski school and the terrain they teach on is excellent but they don't really have the other amenities that makes doing a week long vacation quite as easy with a family. Folks at Smuggs are willing to deal with the slow doubles since the build out is already there and there is much more to do beyond the skiing.
    Also Smuggs draws from a greater local population base---Burlington and surrounding towns is more built up than Rangeley.
    The town of Rangeley is great but is a bit detached from the mountain as well.
    Not to mention that getting to Smuggs is much easier and closer to Boston and NYC by 1 or 2 hours respectively, Smuggs has much better terrain and twice the size too! So considering the lift prices being the same $69 (Saddleback) vs $70 Smuggs. It is easier to understand why people are more attracked to Smuggs not to mention that Smuggs has something people are willing to wait in line for.
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