USSA Proposes World Cup At Killington

Newpylong · Jul 6, 2016

What is ice fertilizer?

Abubob · Jul 6, 2016

I found this interesting. Could it be that they're trying not to harm the vegetation with salt? As found in http://www.bountifulgardencenter.com/uploads/IceMelters.pdf

Another category of ice melters is garden fertilizer.Fertilizers often are assumed to be safe forplants and turf because they are fertilizers. However, the application rates for fertilizers used as icemelters are much higher than the rates for normal feeding. As a general rule, fertilizers are usually safer for plants, but some fertilizers can be more damaging to concrete than salt is.

BenedictGomez · Jul 6, 2016

doublediamond said:
Why? The vast majority of seasons Superstar Quad is open by Thanksgiving. And USSA is providing rental air compressors dedicated to Superstar and Skylark

Because there's a difference between "technically being able to hold an event with horrendous conditions" and "holding an event with average to optimal conditions", and November in Central Vermont is a huge roll-of-the-dice that increases the odds of the former possibly occurring.

Seems like a completely unnecessary risk to me. Hopefully it's a cold November and all goes off without a hitch, but I can hear the athletes complaining already.

machski · Jul 6, 2016

BenedictGomez said:
Because there's a difference between "technically being able to hold an event with horrendous conditions" and "holding an event with average to optimal conditions", and November in Central Vermont is a huge roll-of-the-dice that increases the odds of the former possibly occurring.

Seems like a completely unnecessary risk to me. Hopefully it's a cold November and all goes off without a hitch, but I can hear the athletes complaining already.

Because FIS did not offer another date. So is this unnecessary? If you (or USSA) wants to bring FIS world cup racing back to New England, then yes this risk is necessary. You sound like Highway Star with this post. But given this past season, even early February or March would have been a risk of cancellation due to weather.

This is great to have this level of comp back in New England. Killington, Powdr, USSA and FIS all know the early season weather risks. But SS has the snowmaking infrastructure in place to make this a realistic endeavor. And other than the actual race weekend impediment, I don't think public skiing will suffer much at all at Killington.

SIKSKIER · Jul 7, 2016

Newpylong said:
What is ice fertilizer?

A wise crack.The salt "fertilizes" the snow into ice.

Abubob · Jul 7, 2016

SIKSKIER said:
A wise crack.The salt "fertilizes" the snow into ice.

From what I've read it's actually fertilizer - not salt.

Notice post #'s 18, 20 and 21.
http://www.epicski.com/t/82036/how-why-does-salting-a-race-course-work

slatham · Jul 7, 2016

Let's not forget that FIS events world-wide are often negatively impacted and even cancelled due to weather issues. It's the nature of the beast. Even mid-winter Alps events have been cancelled due to lack of snow.

skifree · Jul 7, 2016

slatham said:
Let's not forget that FIS events world-wide are often negatively impacted and even cancelled due to weather issues. It's the nature of the beast. Even mid-winter Alps events have been cancelled due to lack of snow.

or too much snow

andrec10 · Jul 7, 2016

Abubob said:
From what I've read it's actually fertilizer - not salt.

Notice post #'s 18, 20 and 21.
http://www.epicski.com/t/82036/how-why-does-salting-a-race-course-work

Its solidified cow piss!

steamboat1 · Jul 7, 2016

andrec10 said:
Its solidified cow piss!

Can it power the gondola?

yeggous · Jul 11, 2016

I know salting race courses is standard procedure, but that can't be good come spring.

P.S. it is too quiet here in summer. Someone please entertain me. I am at Logan waiting for a flight. Bueller?

Abubob · Jul 11, 2016

andrec10 said:
Its solidified cow piss!

How is that collected exactly?

:roll:

On second thought I don't wanna know.

dlague · Jul 11, 2016

Abubob said:
How is that collected exactly?

:roll:

On second thought I don't wanna know.

by hand!

Abubob · Jul 12, 2016

dlague said:
by hand!

uke:

bigbog · Jul 12, 2016

slatham said:
Let's not forget that FIS events world-wide are often negatively impacted and even cancelled due to weather issues. It's the nature of the beast. Even mid-winter Alps events have been cancelled due to lack of snow.

Cancelled and shortened(2015 Kitzbuhl's Hannenkam(sp?)) ..ended up being run like ?? not quite a half? of the course's true length, and with lousy, soft snow...

steamboat1 · Sep 22, 2016

Entertainment & schedule: http://www.killington.com/company/media/pressrelease.html?pressrelease=pressrelease47

Jcb890 · Sep 22, 2016

steamboat1 said:
Entertainment & schedule: http://www.killington.com/company/media/pressrelease.html?pressrelease=pressrelease47

Pretty solid commercial. :lol:

doublediamond · Sep 25, 2016

yeggous said:
I know salting race courses is standard procedure, but that can't be good come spring.

It's 'salt' in the chemistry sense. It is usually it's ammonium nitrate, as in fertilizer. But that may vary dependent on forecasted conditions.

They also will inject water into the snow. It's a long pipe with holes on the bottom, hooked up to the snowmaking hydrants. One operator on each end to control the bar. One operator has a valve that they open and close briefly, then move down the hill a foot or so and repeat.

benski · Sep 25, 2016

doublediamond said:
They also will inject water into the snow. It's a long pipe with holes on the bottom, hooked up to the snowmaking hydrants. One operator on each end to control the bar. One operator has a valve that they open and close briefly, then move down the hill a foot or so and repeat.

Ice! Thats what New England need more of.

ss20 · Sep 25, 2016

benski said:
Ice! Thats what New England need more of.

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