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  1. #1451
    Quote Originally Posted by bdfreetuna View Post
    Well maybe for you and some others but I don't like repeating runs in a day and almost never do unless I have to. So I won't argue with the marketing departments on that one. Open trail counts are decision makers for me especially earlier in the season when it's more of an issue.
    Again emphasis added - this is interesting to me. I agree that during time of limited terrain this may be an issue. However, most runs (that aren't groomed into a flat, homogeneous boulevard) have multiple lines down through them. I can ski Sorcerer multiple times without ever skiing over the same mogul, roller, or pitch more than once. If I weave in and out of the woods along the edge, I can add another lap or two without being bored.

    I think that is a main difference between a place like Mt. Snow and Magic. You can get dropped on many trails at Mt. Snow and not really know which you are on as so many of them ski exactly the same as the others.

  2. #1452
    Well Magic is the most interesting terrain in Southern Vermont so I'm not saying it's about purely looking at the trail counts.

    The thing is there is often a month or so when Killington and Mount Snow are in expansion mode and maybe Magic is struggling to even open at all.

    I don't think we disagree, maybe I worded my original comment to appear single faceted. Magic is one of few places that could be down on trail count but still be a compelling option. The whole trail count issue is definitely relative to each resort, certainly not a blind "oh look this # is higher than this #"

  3. #1453
    Quote Originally Posted by IceEidolon View Post
    Talisman is the best example I could think of since we all know those trails. I could bring up better examples from other states but then nobody else knows what I'm talking about, plus Talisman does have this occasionally.

    I don't think Wizard needs to be split unless the plan is not to open 'middle wizard' for a few weeks after Talisman, which I don't think it is.

    Besides, upper/middle/lower leaves creativity on the table. Wizard Hat, Wizard Robe, Wizard's Ring works just as well.

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  5. #1455
    Quote Originally Posted by tumbler View Post
    And that attitude is what sinks companies. You should want anyone and everyone to ski there so they make MONEY so they can pay off their debt and hopefully keep doing capital improvements.
    The type of skier growth Magic needs, and can handle, is not in the grand scheme of things that large, especially in the context of the general "skiing" public and the 400-500K skier visits of the mega resorts. A fraction of that as new skiers at Magic will assure its future (along with proper management). The vibe at Magic is to welcome anyone, but not to attract everyone. IMHO.
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  6. #1456
    Quote Originally Posted by slatham View Post

    The vibe at Magic is to welcome anyone, but not to attract everyone. IMHO.
    This is a very interesting take and one that definitely seems to work for a place like magic!
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    It’s all about flag count


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  8. #1458
    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyGrove View Post

    I think that is a main difference between a place like Mt. Snow and Magic. You can get dropped on many trails at Mt. Snow and not really know which you are on as so many of them ski exactly the same as the others.
    Not to derail the thread but as a Snow local for three years I can confidently say that at least in my opinion that's definitely not true. Not as much diversity as Magic, but it's not so bland that you can't tell where you are with a quick glance around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by sull1102 View Post
    Not to derail the thread but as a Snow local for three years I can confidently say that at least in my opinion that's definitely not true. Not as much diversity as Magic, but it's not so bland that you can't tell where you are with a quick glance around.

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    I was going to say, most runs at Snow are fairly tame but at least have some uniqueness. There are a couple other S. VT "groomer" mountains that have side by side runs that are not easily distinguished.

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