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    Burnt Mountain Cat skiing

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    Those prices seem quite reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    Those prices seem quite reasonable.
    $30 for a cat ride to terrain already accessible via lifts and hiking...meh. There's 15 slots and if they can get 10 people on each ride that's 150 people. 150 hardcore skiers. They can probably hit that number weekends mid-winter but on a Tuesday in late March it sounds like a waste of diesel.

    I'd be more interested in an all-day pass in the $100-$150 range. Maybe a $180 lift ticket/cat pass with a cat-only pass available for $120.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ss20 View Post
    $30 for a cat ride to terrain already accessible via lifts and hiking...meh. There's 15 slots and if they can get 10 people on each ride that's 150 people. 150 hardcore skiers. They can probably hit that number weekends mid-winter but on a Tuesday in late March it sounds like a waste of diesel.

    I'd be more interested in an all-day pass in the $100-$150 range. Maybe a $180 lift ticket/cat pass with a cat-only pass available for $120.
    I've heard weekends and holidays only this year.

    Have you ever hiked to the summit of Burnt? Its not the most accessible skiing. Its a little like the Cirque Sled at Winter Park.

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    Hopefully it is only for a few years and they use the money to put in a t-bar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smellytele View Post
    Hopefully it is only for a few years and they use the money to put in a t-bar
    I mentioned in another ski forum my preference for a T-Bar out there, but only to get back to the base of King Pine. Make all the Upper Burnt stuff still hike/skin to terrain. The idea I have in mind is on the image below. T-Bar being the red line. The orange line is a well marked traverse bringing people skiing the outer reaches of Burnt back to the lift so they don't get stuck having to go down to the lower condos and slog across parking lots back to the base area.

    Other than that, the one thing I'd like to see (and environmentalists would probably shoot me) is a better designed entrance consisting of a cat track about 8-10 feet wide heading out into Bracket. As it currently is developed, there's just a bunch of single tracks of various levels that get you out to the initial Can't Dog glades and the ones beyond it that I can't recall the names. It all gets bony in a hurry and you end up getting stuck behind people flailing while trying to ski out there. It's a total mess on a busy day. Set it up so that there's room for people to stop and contemplate their line while leaving room for people to ski on past them. (Blue Line)

    These ideas combined is what I think would make Bracket truly shine as the best side country ski resort experience in the East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    These ideas combined is what I think would make Bracket truly shine as the best side country ski resort experience in the East.

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    Deadhead, I think those are all good ideas but it is going to hard to beat the Slidebrook area of Sugarbush or what Stove has on multiple areas as the best experience in the east. We will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Deadhead, I think those are all good ideas but it is going to hard to beat the Slidebrook area of Sugarbush or what Stove has on multiple areas as the best experience in the east. We will see.
    I called Stowe home for numerous years. The acreage of Bunt / Bracket exceeds that of what's beyond Chin Clip including the Chin at least as far out as Hell Brook. It's a massive area. I haven't done it, but I'd imagine the hike up Burnt is about the same as doing the Chin. The lines of the Chin are pretty gnarly between Hour Glass and some of the North Face stuff. Not sure Burnt can match that, but it does appear to have many more options to ski with a similar above tree line like experience. But overall, having a T-Bar return like I've suggested would really make for better access and ability to spend more time skiing than what you have to do with the skate down 108 at Stowe or grabbing a shuttle bus like you do after skiing Slidebrook.

    "Best" is always a personal preference though. Call it "one of the best" I guess. It's a pretty great skiing experience that would really be elevated if they figure out how to be able to access more vertical down low without it being a pain in the ass to get out of there like it currently is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    I mentioned in another ski forum my preference for a T-Bar out there, but only to get back to the base of King Pine. Make all the Upper Burnt stuff still hike/skin to terrain. The idea I have in mind is on the image below. T-Bar being the red line. The orange line is a well marked traverse bringing people skiing the outer reaches of Burnt back to the lift so they don't get stuck having to go down to the lower condos and slog across parking lots back to the base area.

    Other than that, the one thing I'd like to see (and environmentalists would probably shoot me) is a better designed entrance consisting of a cat track about 8-10 feet wide heading out into Bracket. As it currently is developed, there's just a bunch of single tracks of various levels that get you out to the initial Can't Dog glades and the ones beyond it that I can't recall the names. It all gets bony in a hurry and you end up getting stuck behind people flailing while trying to ski out there. It's a total mess on a busy day. Set it up so that there's room for people to stop and contemplate their line while leaving room for people to ski on past them. (Blue Line)

    These ideas combined is what I think would make Bracket truly shine as the best side country ski resort experience in the East.
    I like your ideas DHS. I also think these additions and the cats are not mutually exclusive. I like keeping the summit of Burnt as a hike to only. That is also why I'm not incredibly upset by the cats in the first place as they are terminating a decent ways below the summit.

    The area is so massive, the map hardly does it justice. The cats and even a T-bar would add so little to the overall remote feel of the place. I think it'll be many years before we see additions beyond the cats though. They will want to run those by themselves to see just how popular they are/can become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    I mentioned in another ski forum my preference for a T-Bar out there, but only to get back to the base of King Pine. Make all the Upper Burnt stuff still hike/skin to terrain. The idea I have in mind is on the image below. T-Bar being the red line. The orange line is a well marked traverse bringing people skiing the outer reaches of Burnt back to the lift so they don't get stuck having to go down to the lower condos and slog across parking lots back to the base area.

    Other than that, the one thing I'd like to see (and environmentalists would probably shoot me) is a better designed entrance consisting of a cat track about 8-10 feet wide heading out into Bracket. As it currently is developed, there's just a bunch of single tracks of various levels that get you out to the initial Can't Dog glades and the ones beyond it that I can't recall the names. It all gets bony in a hurry and you end up getting stuck behind people flailing while trying to ski out there. It's a total mess on a busy day. Set it up so that there's room for people to stop and contemplate their line while leaving room for people to ski on past them. (Blue Line)

    These ideas combined is what I think would make Bracket truly shine as the best side country ski resort experience in the East.

    Bracket.jpg
    My only concern with DHS' T-Bar idea is that you would have to block off the lift line. That could interfere with Bracket to very base runs if someone wanted to. Arguably very flat but the position of a T-Bar or any surface lift is critical. Have to make sure it won't F-up any lines. That's the nice thing about the cats, no restrictions on skiing across the cat road.

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