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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenedictGomez View Post
    Do yourself a favor, unbookmark that page, and never go there for your winter weather forecast ever again.
    I find them to be excellent for temperature and wind - for Jay Peak at least. Not so great for precipitation however.


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    Hearing this blowtorch wrecked Stratton pretty good, down to bare spots in some places apparently.
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  3. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Jcb890 View Post
    I'm all ears for better forecast sites... I like that they try to show elevation and it shows actual mountain weather as opposed to like Weather Underground or Weather.gov which uses the closest weather station.
    If you're interested in mountain forecasts, NWS has enhanced forecasts for a number of mountains:
    http://www.weather.gov/btv/mountain

    More general winter maps and forecasts from NWS are here for VT:
    http://www.weather.gov/btv/winter

    One of the big problems with that other site you mentioned is that they don't account at all for any precipitation type other than snow and rain. So with a storm like this where you're getting mixing, that will impact snow totals a lot.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by fbrissette View Post
    I find them to be excellent for temperature and wind - for Jay Peak at least. Not so great for precipitation however.
    Any website can give you temp and wind. But that pcp is ridiculous, completely based on just automation of the model, which could tell someone they're getting 20" of snow, when in reality they're getting 0" of snow because it digests ANY "non-rain" pcp as snow. For instance, Wildcat is not getting 16" of snow from this event as they suggest, they'd be happy to get 6" from what we currently know. That's seriously misleading to people, and I bet there will be unhappy people who book hotels & ruin weekends based on "Fake News" so to speak.
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  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    If you're interested in mountain forecasts, NWS has enhanced forecasts for a number of mountains:
    http://www.weather.gov/btv/mountain

    More general winter maps and forecasts from NWS are here for VT:
    http://www.weather.gov/btv/winter

    One of the big problems with that other site you mentioned is that they don't account at all for any precipitation type other than snow and rain. So with a storm like this where you're getting mixing, that will impact snow totals a lot.
    I find the weather.gov mountain forecasts link not very intuitive or easy to use.

    Quote Originally Posted by BenedictGomez View Post
    Any website can give you temp and wind. But that pcp is ridiculous, completely based on just automation of the model, which could tell someone they're getting 20" of snow, when in reality they're getting 0" of snow because it digests ANY "non-rain" pcp as snow. For instance, Wildcat is not getting 16" of snow from this event as they suggest, they'd be happy to get 6" from what we currently know. That's seriously misleading to people, and I bet there will be unhappy people who book hotels & ruin weekends based on "Fake News" so to speak.
    Good info, thank you. I need to get better at this apparently...
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  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by Jcb890 View Post
    Good info, thank you. I need to get better at this apparently...
    If a storm occurs where it's cold long before, all during, and right after, their projections will likely be correct, because all the air columns up to space are probably < 32 degrees. The problem is an event like this one, where it's below freezing where we walk our dogs, but it might be 39 degrees 5000 feet or 7000 feet up in the atmosphere, their automated snowfall outputs will never pick that up, and you'll never get snow in that scenario. And that happens pretty often, which is why you'd do better to just go to the various NWS websites and read the thoughts of professional meteorologists' expectations. They do all that manual work looking at the air columns, timing issues, etc... to make their forecasts.
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  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Jcb890 View Post
    I find the weather.gov mountain forecasts link not very intuitive or easy to use.
    Just click the yellow dot for "Enhanced" forecasts for a particular mountain towards the bottom of the page. That will bring you to a text forecast followed by various graphs for forecasted temps, snowfall amounts, etc.

    For example if you look at the graph on the Mt Mansfield forecast (http://www.weather.gov/btv/mountain_...NT%20MANSFIELD) they're showing about 7 inches of snow on Saturday mostly falling between 6am and noon.

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    Just click the yellow dot for "Enhanced" forecasts for a particular mountain towards the bottom of the page. That will bring you to a text forecast followed by various graphs for forecasted temps, snowfall amounts, etc.

    For example if you look at the graph on the Mt Mansfield forecast (http://www.weather.gov/btv/mountain_...NT%20MANSFIELD) they're showing about 7 inches of snow on Saturday mostly falling between 6am and noon.
    Probably a dumb question, but I could't figure it out easily... do they only have Burlington VT area? Is there an option for NH?

    Also, I know the mountains mostly by resort name, any good way to equate that with the actual mountain names found on that site?
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  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by BenedictGomez View Post
    If a storm occurs where it's cold long before, all during, and right after, their projections will likely be correct, because all the air columns up to space are probably < 32 degrees. The problem is an event like this one, where it's below freezing where we walk our dogs, but it might be 39 degrees 5000 feet or 7000 feet up in the atmosphere, their automated snowfall outputs will never pick that up, and you'll never get snow in that scenario. And that happens pretty often, which is why you'd do better to just go to the various NWS websites and read the thoughts of professional meteorologists' expectations. They do all that manual work looking at the air columns, timing issues, etc... to make their forecasts.
    That makes sense, but I'm looking for a site which provides me this information. Is there a better option than looking at all of the individual reports?
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  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by BenedictGomez View Post
    Hearing this blowtorch wrecked Stratton pretty good, down to bare spots in some places apparently.
    I am surprised by how much snow we lost here in northern Vermont. The Burke webcam now shows a lot of grass at the base of the Mid-Burke Express.

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