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    Help me choose a hike

    So heading up to the dacks this weekend. If there was no snow this week the plan was to do Giant. Now there is a little snow. We don't have snowshoes or crampons (don't really want to rent them either but would consider it) and so have some scepticism about doing giant. (Do have stablicers though). Any advice?

    Other hikes we are considering in lieu
    Phelps
    Hurricane
    McKenzie
    Ampersand



    Any advice would be appreciated!

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    Considered Giant, but seems like a pretty short hike?

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    Giant has some steeps & open slabs were a slip due to overmatching the stabliciers could get ugly.

    From personal experience Phelps & Hurricane would be okay. The RT for Phelps is 8.8 & snow will be found higher up so this trip needs more time. First couple of miles easy but with short days I'd want to be on the trail before 9:00 for this one.

    Hurricane shorter trip

    Both offer good views so bring warm clothes so you can stay up top & enjoy. ADK's are tough on snow levels & requiring snowshoes so check for that info by calling ADK.
    Happy Trails, be safe & Good Luck
    Mike P.

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    Just want to chime in that upper elevations do have plenty of ice in the exposed areas. You will likely need those stabilicers higher up. The problem is that there's ice, but it's thin. Crampons might not even help.

    The issue with Giant (Zander Scott Trail) will be ledges like this one. They could be like glass, or they could be bone dry from a week of bright sunlight.
    Skiing combines outdoor fun with knocking down trees with your face. - Dave Barry
    Waterville 11/30; Loon 12/7; Cannon 12/13, 1/17, 2/23; Sugarloaf 12/20, 21-22; Bretton Woods 1/3; Jay Peak 1/24-25; Heavenly 2/9; Squaw Valley 2/10-2/11; Wachusett 3/3; Sunday River 3/7-8

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    On Giant and RPR on Tuesday, a hiker encountered "progressive snow cover above 3800 feet" in the 3 to 4 inch deep range with some drifting. He used Stabilicers successfully, but more snow is said to have fallen on Wednesday.
    Skiing combines outdoor fun with knocking down trees with your face. - Dave Barry
    Waterville 11/30; Loon 12/7; Cannon 12/13, 1/17, 2/23; Sugarloaf 12/20, 21-22; Bretton Woods 1/3; Jay Peak 1/24-25; Heavenly 2/9; Squaw Valley 2/10-2/11; Wachusett 3/3; Sunday River 3/7-8

  6. #6
    This is some good info...
    To be honest the little patches of ice are what concerned me. I know that 3-6 inches of snow with a freeze and thaw cycle could - on a open slab- turn into the trail into a skating rink.
    - MJ where did you get the beta about a hiker and the snow? Is that from an ADK website?

    - Andy at 3.3. miles rt and 3000 feet of climbing giant is plenty of trip for a short november day.

    With the advice here I'm going to consider phelps in more detail...doesn't seem like it has too many areas prone to icing.
    The snow I could care less about- i have gaiters and great boots so as long as I'm not sinking up past my calfs on every step i'm ok.

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    Yes, the beta came from ADK High Peaks, where I'm also a member. I just happened to see it after reading the post here and given its relevance made the quote.
    Skiing combines outdoor fun with knocking down trees with your face. - Dave Barry
    Waterville 11/30; Loon 12/7; Cannon 12/13, 1/17, 2/23; Sugarloaf 12/20, 21-22; Bretton Woods 1/3; Jay Peak 1/24-25; Heavenly 2/9; Squaw Valley 2/10-2/11; Wachusett 3/3; Sunday River 3/7-8

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    THAT IS AWESOME...what a great hike...can we delete this post?

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    Phelps has a great view, can't really remember the hike since it was awhile ago. Trail head is near Heart Lake if I recall. Hurricane also has a great view, it's an easier hike (not a high peak), and has a great view of Champlain. Either one is a nice hike, can't say much about the other two though.
    lets go snowboarding

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    I think phelps is the trip...looks nicely protected so as to diminish the icing.
    Also going to hit up mckenzie the next day-

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