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    Stupid Newb questions

    alright, i was pming greg some questions and in between his laughter, he did manage to answer a few.

    It seems to start out, platform pedals and sneakers are acceptable. Consensus on this?

    My bike. I'm 5 10" and i bought a 20" frame. Apparently this may be way too big for me, any opinions?

    Is a hardtail going to be a liability for me starting out? I gotta believe no cause i wont be doing much of anything.



    Seats. I've ridden my bike a total of about 1 hour and the seat sucks. My a$$ hurts immediately. I've heard that Gel seats can pinch. Any truth to that or recomendations on seats?

    Spare stuff. like tubes and stuff. anything i should just go out and get some extras of right off the bat.

    thats all the stupidity i can think of now but i'd bet i can come up with more.....

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    It seems to start out, platform pedals and sneakers are acceptable. Consensus on this?Depends on the pedal, my stock platforms on the HT are marginal for where I am riding

    My bike. I'm 5 10" and i bought a 20" frame. Apparently this may be way too big for me, any opinions?I/m 5-8 and my Ht was a 17 and fit about right. Manufactures differ but sound awfully big for trail riding. Usually want to go on the smaller side

    Is a hardtail going to be a liability for me starting out? I gotta believe no cause i wont be doing much of anything.Tim will probably chime in on this one, but it is better to learn on the HT, lean more bike control

    Seats. I've ridden my bike a total of about 1 hour and the seat sucks. My a$$ hurts immediately. I've heard that Gel seats can pinch. Any truth to that or recomendations on seats?Rider preference mostly. I just ordered a WTB Pure seat since I not that impressed with the factory on my Cannondale, but I do really like the one on the loaner I got, but not sure what brand it is

    Spare stuff. like tubes and stuff. anything i should just go out and get some extras of right off the bat.Make sure you get the tubes with the right valves for you wheels. Basically a multi tool, tire bars, adj wrench and pliers

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    Platforms and sneakers will be fine, you may have trouble keeping your feet on the pedals on bumpier terrain though.

    A 20" frame does sound way big for you. How does it feel to you? Do you feel stretched out on it?

    A good hard tail is a prefect way to start out in the sport, you'll build some skills that you may miss starting out on a full suspension.

    In my experience any seat is going to hurt your ass at first. If it were me I'd give it some time to see if I got used to it. I'd also highly recommend getting some padded cycling shorts.

    You'd be well off to get a spare tube, pump, and tire levers to start out with. There's several other things that would be useful, but I wouldn't go crazy unless you really get into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    It seems to start out, platform pedals and sneakers are acceptable. Consensus on this?
    As a person who has recently switched to clipless, I think that you should use the platforms for a bit. Get a good feel for riding before switching over to clipless. Then again, maybe it's just a girl thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    Is a hardtail going to be a liability for me starting out? I gotta believe no cause i wont be doing much of anything.
    I ride a hardtail. Brian did for the first year or so, too. I think it should work fine for you for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    Seats. I've ridden my bike a total of about 1 hour and the seat sucks. My a$$ hurts immediately. I've heard that Gel seats can pinch. Any truth to that or recomendations on seats?
    Stay away from gel seats!!!! Otherwise, hard to say what will work for you. Go to a LBS and see what you can find. Or find a manufacturer with a good return policy if the saddle doesn't work out for you. It's really a matter of personal preference. Padded shorts (or liners) are a must though. I never realized how important they were until I recently switched.

    And Brian's right.... some of it is just breaking in your butt for the trail.

    Glad to see you excited about it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    My a$$ hurts immediately.
    Stop drinking Greg's "Magic RAW Juice." You'll realize that you'll stop waking up in a fetal position a few yards of the trail too!
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    It seems to start out, platform pedals and sneakers are acceptable. Consensus on this? Perfectly fine.

    My bike. I'm 5 10" and i bought a 20" frame. Apparently this may be way too big for me, any opinions? Over extending could lead to back problems. If yours gives out, your bike might be too big for you.

    Is a hardtail going to be a liability for me starting out? I gotta believe no cause i wont be doing much of anything. No.

    Seats. I've ridden my bike a total of about 1 hour and the seat sucks. My a$$ hurts immediately. I've heard that Gel seats can pinch. Any truth to that or recomendations on seats? Get padded shorts. MTB seats suck- there's really no getting around it.

    Spare stuff. like tubes and stuff. anything i should just go out and get some extras of right off the bat. Tubes and a quick link for sure. A small pump in case of a flat would also be helpful.
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    I' won't bore you with answers to all your questions, but I'll give a bit of an expanded synopsis on a few of your questions

    Saddle - Personal fit is important. A saddle that is comfy for you may not be for greg, jeff or brian. Find a shop that will let you return if you don't like the saddle. Read this thread for more information

    Hart Tail vs Full Suspension - I rode a Trek HT for 5 years before investing in a FS. I absolutely love my FS for down hills and jumping logs, rocks and extremely rough terrain, however, I would not be handling the FS as well had I not been experienced with the HT. Further, this season my husband rode with me a bit. He preferred the FS, so I set it up for him, and never switched it back to my saddle, pedal, and compression settings. I've stayed on my HT and am loving it. In fact, I built a Single Speed with the help of Volklgirl, and haven't touched either of my other bikes since.

    Does this help?

    *This weekend we are doing some down hill with technical stuff so I'll be back on the Liquid FS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    alright, i was pming greg some questions and in between his laughter, he did manage to answer a few.
    I'm disappointed. Not the entirely stupid questions I thought they would be...

    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    It seems to start out, platform pedals and sneakers are acceptable. Consensus on this?
    Like I said in my PM, they're fine for starting out. In fact, don't spend a ton of money on anything until you know you'll be doing this a lot. Eventually, you will learn what you want/need naturally and then you can get higher end components/parts as you determine what you need. No sense in spending too much $$$ right away.

    Perhaps the next step would be actual MTB shoes, probably cleat compatible so if you do go clipless, you're ready. On the other hand if you decide to stick with platforms, you'll want an entirely different type of shoe, so again, ride with the kicks and the stock platforms for a while to see which way you want to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    My bike. I'm 5 10" and i bought a 20" frame. Apparently this may be way too big for me, any opinions?
    Too big, I'd imagine. My HT is 19" and my FS is 18.5". I'm 6'1". I went smaller when I had to decide between an 18.5" and a 19.5" mostly due to the fact that the terrain I ride - narrow twisty and sometimes more technical trails where a smaller bike is easier to throw around. A larger bike would be better for fire roads, rail trails, maybe faster smooth ST. Again, gotta see what your riding preference ultimately is. With that said, there are some things you can do to shorten up the reach on the bike - shorter stem, bring the saddle forward on the post, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    Is a hardtail going to be a liability for me starting out? I gotta believe no cause i wont be doing much of anything.
    As the others said, riding a HT first is good for building skill. Plus, if you can control an HT on technical terrain, if/when you get get an FS, it will make it all that much sweeter. Also, starting out, you don't want to spend a lot until you know how much you're going to be doing it and, again, what your riding preference turns out to be - XC, free riding, downhill. There are different FS bikes for different styles.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    Seats. I've ridden my bike a total of about 1 hour and the seat sucks. My a$$ hurts immediately. I've heard that Gel seats can pinch. Any truth to that or recomendations on seats?
    Like the others said - get padded biking shorts and just suck it up until you get used to it. Tainted love is something you just have to suffer through. I never have taint pain anymore. I've found seats with the notch in the rear eliminate some of the taint friction.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    Spare stuff. like tubes and stuff. anything i should just go out and get some extras of right off the bat.
    Like others side the right size and valve type of tubes. Two is better, but one will suffice if you also have a patch kit. I've yet to flat out on trail, but I suspect it's inevitable. You'll obviously need tire levers and a pump too, or the tubes will be useless unless someone you're riding with has them. A multi-tool is a good idea too. You can expand the tool kit beyond that as you start to ride more.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    thats all the stupidity i can think of now but i'd bet i can come up with more.....
    Fire away. Again, all typical newb questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2knees View Post
    Spare stuff. like lubes and stuff. anything i should just go out and get some extras of right off the bat.
    if you are using a bat you def want some lube.
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    HT is fine for more than just "starting out" IMO. Unless I start hitting 6' drops routinely I'm not getting rid of my HT.
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