Any 2008-09 equipment REALLY worth noting?

billski · Sep 28, 2008

Seriously, cast aside the marketing.

Is there anything new in equipment world - skis, boards, bindings, boots, helmets worth spending good oxygen/electrons talking about? I don't think there have been any tech breakthroughs in a number of years. But are manufacturers doing anything different that is worth looking at? Any stand-out equipment that is worth putting on a "wish list"?

riverc0il · Sep 28, 2008

Maybe no recent tech breakthroughs in the alpine skiing world, but backcountry equipment is jumping by leaps and bounds due to increased demand. This year sees the release of several new boot lines including an entire new product line from BDEL and several new books from Garmont, many of which are mid to heavy beef boots with Dynafit blocks. This may be the one and only time I am considering spending $600+ ticketed retail price for a piece of equipment pending one of these new boots fits.

lloyd braun · Sep 28, 2008

the kastle MX 108 is worth mention.

billski · Sep 28, 2008

lloyd braun said:
the kastle MX 108 is worth mention.

Why?

deadheadskier · Sep 28, 2008

Kastle in general is worth mentioning. Rebirth with a lot of high praise in the Skiing gear review

riverc0il · Sep 28, 2008

Kastle is worth noting but it does not meet billski's criteria of a significant tech breakthrough.

wa-loaf · Sep 28, 2008

I really would like to try some of the abducted stance boots. Fischer Somas and Nordica Aggressors. The seem like they would be helpful to me, I'm one of those guys who's skis spread out on the lift.

WJenness · Sep 28, 2008

wa-loaf said:
I really would like to try some of the abducted stance boots. Fischer Somas and Nordica Aggressors. The seem like they would be helpful to me, I'm one of those guys who's skis spread out on the lift.

??

Fill me in... I'm one of those guys too.

-w

deadheadskier · Sep 28, 2008

riverc0il said:
Kastle is worth noting but it does not meet billski's criteria of a significant tech breakthrough.

ahhh....but that was only one part of his criteria

The Kastle's could fit his stand-out equipment wish list criteria.

I could never afford new Kastle's, well any new ski for that matter until the end of the season, but I'd like to check them out. Not that it matters that much, but I particularly dig the minimalist graphics of the ski.

Hawkshot99 · Sep 28, 2008

WJenness said:
??

Fill me in... I'm one of those guys too.

-w

A typical boot your foot needs to be perfectly straight forward in the boot and on the ski to ski straight. Many people when standing flat on the ground have there feet turn slightly outward. Several boot companies have created boots that the sole of the boot is not straight compared to the foot. Meaning that hen you are locked into the skis, the skis are pointed directly forward, but your foot(which has a natural tendency to turn out) is turned outward.

I do not know how well I explained that. I have never actually seen one of these models. Only read about them.

o3jeff · Sep 28, 2008

Hawkshot99 said:
A typical boot your foot needs to be perfectly straight forward in the boot and on the ski to ski straight. Many people when standing flat on the ground have there feet turn slightly outward. Several boot companies have created boots that the sole of the boot is not straight compared to the foot. Meaning that hen you are locked into the skis, the skis are pointed directly forward, but your foot(which has a natural tendency to turn out) is turned outward.

I do not know how well I explained that. I have never actually seen one of these models. Only read about them.

Seems like it would screw up how you roll side to side. Just sitting here if I turn my feet outward it is kinda hard/unnatural to do.

Beetlenut · Sep 28, 2008

o3jeff said:
Seems like it would screw up how you roll side to side. Just sitting here if I turn my feet outward it is kinda hard/unnatural to do.

I also think it would limit the amount of inside knee-drive you could get. I'm also one of those people who's feet turn out and skis spread on the lift, but I don't think I would like the feel of my ski not going where I point my big toe!

wa-loaf · Sep 28, 2008

o3jeff said:
Seems like it would screw up how you roll side to side. Just sitting here if I turn my feet outward it is kinda hard/unnatural to do.

Beetlenut said:
I also think it would limit the amount of inside knee-drive you could get. I'm also one of those people who's feet turn out and skis spread on the lift, but I don't think I would like the feel of my ski not going where I point my big toe!

I've read that it takes a little getting used to but really improves your edging. Some people also hate it. Definitely want to try it out before I buy a boot like that.

riverc0il · Sep 28, 2008

deadheadskier said:
ahhh....but that was only one part of his criteria

The Kastle's could fit his stand-out equipment wish list criteria.

I could never afford new Kastle's, well any new ski for that matter until the end of the season, but I'd like to check them out. Not that it matters that much, but I particularly dig the minimalist graphics of the ski.

DHS, you definitely keep me honest. Upon re-reading, I concede that it was not an all inclusive criteria as I stipulated and withdraw my objection.

:grin: :snow:

Philpug · Sep 28, 2008

Markers new MX heel. Laterally stiffer and more responsive than their previous design.

awf170 · Sep 29, 2008

riverc0il said:
This may be the one and only time I am considering spending $600+ ticketed retail price for a piece of equipment pending one of these new boots fits.

Yeah, I'm weak and pathetic so I'm actually going to cough up the $600+ for the Garmont Radium. Any idea where I could try these on.

This is pending that they are the same fit as the megaride. Which I assume they basically are.

drool...

billski · Sep 29, 2008

deadheadskier said:
Kastle in general is worth mentioning. Rebirth with a lot of high praise in the Skiing gear review

What is the substance here? All I hear is a name.

skibumnh · Sep 29, 2008

Nope nothing to see here, except an influx of new rockered, reverse/reverse, re-curved and decambered skis, a dynafit freeride revolution, a downhill oriented AT boot explosion.

Maybe what YOU are skiing on hasn't changed, but that doesn't mean the rest of the industry stands still.

GrilledSteezeSandwich · Sep 29, 2008

awf170 said:
Yeah, I'm weak and pathetic so I'm actually going to cough up the $600+ for the Garmont Radium. Any idea where I could try these on.

This is pending that they are the same fit as the megaride. Which I assume they basically are.

drool...

$600 bucks for ski boots..da damn,..I think mine were $200..

Trekchick · Sep 29, 2008

I [Hart] Skiing said:
Markers new MX heel. Laterally stiffer and more responsive than their previous design.

Is this going to be as much of a "new technology" worth noting as the Jesters or Dukes were during their break out year(s)?

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