campgottagopee
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Thank God for that!!!!
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$$$$ 4 Clunkers over 8/24 8PM
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campgottagopee
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Not one friggin red cent---this has been the biggest cluster I've ever been part of in my 20+ years doing this. I talk with alot of dealers and nobody is getting paid, PERIOD. Gets better. There's a dealer "hot line" you can call for help where after 62 minutes (really) of being on hold someone takes your name, dealership your with and email and tells you someone will call you back---"where just a call center" was the common reply.
uke:This will be a great program once we get paid but right now it's chewing up cash flow at a high rate of speed.
Warp Daddy
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Not one friggin red cent---this has been the biggest cluster I've ever been part of in my 20+ years doing this. I talk with alot of dealers and nobody is getting paid, PERIOD. Gets better. There's a dealer "hot line" you can call for help where after 62 minutes (really) of being on hold someone takes your name, dealership your with and email and tells you someone will call you back---"where just a call center" was the common reply.
This will be a great program once we get paid but right now it's chewing up cash flow at a high rate of speed.
That simply sux and is proof positive the government should stay the hell out of the private sector , Regulate --yes Operate -- no fraken way
Dr Skimeister
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If I assume that you guys will eventually get paid, Camp, would you say that the "Cash For Clunkers" program brought people into the showroom that otherwise would not have been there making purchases? Is it possible for you to estimate how much, if any, of an increase in sales resulted from the program?
By the way-how are your dogs doing?
By the way-how are your dogs doing?
riverc0il
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I was floored when I recently read that you could qualify for this program by only increasing your MPG by 3 MPG. So you could upgrade from a 15 MPG to an 18 MPG vehicle and got into the program. Seems kinda crazy to replace an old clunker with a new clunker. The extension of this program seemed to be rammed through.
Camp... why are they making dealers foot the bill and get a rebate instead of rebating tax payers on their annual income tax? I guess it was thought that people would be more reluctant to sign if the money was on the back end instead of the front end? Buyers would get a slightly lower payment too, I guess. Sucks you guys have to deal with this in the red waiting for the gov to get its act together.
Camp... why are they making dealers foot the bill and get a rebate instead of rebating tax payers on their annual income tax? I guess it was thought that people would be more reluctant to sign if the money was on the back end instead of the front end? Buyers would get a slightly lower payment too, I guess. Sucks you guys have to deal with this in the red waiting for the gov to get its act together.
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Relax... Theres a lot of $ to give out...
Lot's of dealers tripled their sales... If they get paid soon... It's going to be awesome...
People gotta give this shti a chance... It's all new... And it seems to be working...
Lot's of dealers tripled their sales... If they get paid soon... It's going to be awesome...
People gotta give this shti a chance... It's all new... And it seems to be working...
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dude... chill....
Not to get political wait and see what happens if the healthcare passes. Personally, I think that the manufacturers should be dealing with the payment issues, not the dealers. I am glad that it is ebding, stop the handouts.
Marc
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Don't you mean 8/24?
Vortex
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When I bought on this program one dealer said "give us a 3,500 check and when we get a check from the govenment we will issue you a $3500 check." We walked out and 30 min later bought a car elsewhere. I feel for the dealers. I also feel that it is a choice to participate. seems like dealers chose which way to participate. That also make a difference on if you got a sale or not. Same deal in my buiness. Do I sell the slow payer or not? WE would have not purchaed a vehicle without this program. I would have just given my son the old Van as his 1st car.
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$2K here to replace my heating system. Not 3500, but I will take it.
campgottagopee
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If I assume that you guys will eventually get paid, Camp, would you say that the "Cash For Clunkers" program brought people into the showroom that otherwise would not have been there making purchases? Is it possible for you to estimate how much, if any, of an increase in sales resulted from the program?
By the way-how are your dogs doing?
From quick glances at the survey customers have been filling out I'd say 40% of the Clunker deals are from customers who would've purchased used but becasue of the deal went with new, so they were ion the market any ways. The other 60% would be made up of customers replacing second vehicles, parents trading in junkers for kids going off to school and people who bought just because we got them financed. As for increase in sales at minimum 30% is my knee jerk, maybe even more.
The utter frustration here is with the total mismanagement of this program by NHTSA----you will see some dealers go bankrupt because of this program.
Dogs are great---only problem having now is my choc boy is ready to go hunting and we can't.
hammer
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This was a government program...and it was new, something never done before. Not sure why everyone was expecting that the government would all of a sudden be efficient or expedient.
In the end, I think it will be seen as a positive thing that gave the auto industry a needed (albeit small) boost during some hard times.
My only regret was that my "clunker" didn't qualify. Oh well, at least I'll get the sales tax deduction this year...
In the end, I think it will be seen as a positive thing that gave the auto industry a needed (albeit small) boost during some hard times.
My only regret was that my "clunker" didn't qualify. Oh well, at least I'll get the sales tax deduction this year...
campgottagopee
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The 3 MPG thing is/was for catagory 2 trucks not for cars but still is a huge joke.
You answered your own question---payment, payment, payment
If the program had worked like we were told it would've been a problem. We were told we'd see the money in 10 days after submission of an invoice. Guess what, I have invoices that have been "under review" since 7/28 and haven't moved.
drjeff
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From quick glances at the survey customers have been filling out I'd say 40% of the Clunker deals are from customers who would've purchased used but becasue of the deal went with new, so they were ion the market any ways. The other 60% would be made up of customers replacing second vehicles, parents trading in junkers for kids going off to school and people who bought just because we got them financed. As for increase in sales at minimum 30% is my knee jerk, maybe even more.
The utter frustration here is with the total mismanagement of this program by NHTSA----you will see some dealers go bankrupt because of this program.
Dogs are great---only problem having now is my choc boy is ready to go hunting and we can't.
I feel for 'ya Camp as once again the blame in this game seems to be trying to be passed out of the culprit (Washington) and onto the good, hard working small businessmen/women of America
It's the lead story in my local paper this AM that is villifying 2 local dealerships (1 Mazda and 1 Chevy) for withholding the vehicles until the dealers receive there $$, and now my "great" attorney general here in CT
and my local congressman are attempting to get in the middle.
campgottagopee
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Right, got $750,000.00 I can borrow??? I'll pay you back in 10 days, really.
Give it a chance???? I think we would if it worked even remotely like we were told it would. This is a joke, and not funny ha,ha.
drjeff
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EXACTLY!!! Everyone thinks that its great to be the boss until you have to be the boss and deal with 98% of the sh$t that those that aren't the boss don't realize goes on!
I'm sure that Gov't IOU for the $$ will really help with covering payroll
hammer
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Just tell the congressman to float an interest-free loan to the dealerships so that the customers can get their vehicles. :razz:It's the lead story in my local paper this AM that is vilifying 2 local dealerships (1 Mazda and 1 Chevy) for withholding the vehicles until the dealers receive there $$, and now my "great" attorney general here in CT
I actually don't blame the dealerships for withholding vehicles until they get paid, but does that really help them financially?
I still stand by what I said before...this was a different, government run program, no one should have really expected it to work as advertised.
I wonder what the stories would have been if the rebates were processed more quickly and without restrictions...like some other much larger bailout programs...:roll:
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