GSS Banned

skidbump said:

You guys realize without him and the sale posts ,this place is pretty dead/pretty boring

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I remember being concerned that this place would be a lot more boring after political discussions were declared off-limits...things slowed down a bit but in the end it was a good thing. In addition, I've seen that limitation pressed quite a few times...

Hopefully Doug will learn from this experience and will make good contributions over on Epicski...I look and post over there from time to time.

As for the rest of us, I think it's good to express opinions on whether GSS should have been banned, but don't decide to leave AZ in a snit over this. The AZ community is not (nor should it) be defined by one or a few members.

hammer said:

The AZ community is not (nor should it) be defined by one or a few members.

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Hammer nailed it!

Trekchick said:

Hammer nailed it!

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Yes! But I feel obligated to point out that someone else made that same point a couple days ago.

severine said:

...But this is Alpine Zone, not GSS-zone. Don't ever expect it to become that or to revolve around any one member. Aside from Greg, we're all replaceable here. No board revolves around just one person, nor should it....

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Brian, you're harshen my mellow.

I said, Hammer, Nailed it! C'mon that was funny, eh?

Severine nailed it doesn't have the same ring.

Greg said:

Impossible to know for sure since that group contains spammer and bots, aliases, etc. If I had to guess, probably less than 10 actual members. beswift, RossiSkier, snowman, and now GSS are the most notorious.

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That is a slap in the face to ghosty and freehillwilly!!

From another thread-just a reminder

snoseek said:

From another thread-just a reminder

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I think I just felt my quiver quiver.

JimG. said:

Heh...it was only a matter of time.

I truly admired GSS's ability to generate free time.

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I didn't. His family enabled his internet presence all these years. In high school, he'd sit at the family computer from the minute he got home from school. His grandparents paid for his college. Family money bought his car and his season passes & beer money. He's apparently working for daddy's tombstone company where he clearly isn't doing much to move the business forward. I was on the internet a lot for the 14 1/2 months when I wasn't working. I no longer have the time.


Which reminds me, I have to get some crap done today. With the Pats game at 7:00, I can't shift my work day out too far.

bvibert said:

Yes! But I feel obligated to point out that someone else made that same point a couple days ago.

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Fair enough...and full credit should be given to Severine. +1 to her comment.

I usually try to read through threads so that I don't provide redundant comments, but I guess I didn't this time...

Trekchick said:

Brian, you're harshen my mellow.

I said, Hammer, Nailed it! C'mon that was funny, eh?

Severine nailed it doesn't have the same ring.

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DOH! Totally missed that. :dunce:

hammer said:

Fair enough...and full credit should be given to Severine. +1 to her comment.

I usually try to read through threads so that I don't provide redundant comments, but I guess I didn't this time...

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No worries, I wasn't trying to put down your comment in any way. Just trying to give my wife some props too.

deadheadskier said:

Some people will find the moderating of such behavior makes this place 'boring'. That's perfectly fine, they can go entertain themselves elsewhere.

Ultimately, the goal of Alpinezone is to be as welcoming a place as possible. Contrary to the belief of a very vocal minority, most new members don't want to hear, "Welcome to Alpinezone you fucking n00b"

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thank you.

Trekchick said:

Brian, you're harshen my mellow.

I said, Hammer, Nailed it! C'mon that was funny, eh?

Severine nailed it doesn't have the same ring.

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TC for the win!

MR. evil said:

I whole hartedly disagree with this. IMO his comments were not Worth getting banned, you guys were just looking for an excuse to ban him. This site is already boring enough latly, this decision will make it even more so.

I wonder how long it will take for me to get a warning for disagreeing with the mods?

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+1

Clearly GSS has been held to a different standard than other members, which has been evidenced in a number of threads. Obviously the mods were looking for a reason to ban him.

GSS's devotion to this site, humor, and passion for skiing is unmatched. Sad to see so many people completely lacking a sense of humor, and more importantly being extremely oversensitive. This is a message board after all! A place for discussions and for people to post their opinions. I can't imagine ever actually being offended by something posted on the interenet. Sadly I think this is a reflection of the direction our society is headed in. I won't elaborate, as it would likely be seen as political.

Bottom line, it is truly sad to see suck overmoderation, and this is a HUGE loss for AZ. I will likely still read, and occasionally post on the forum, but not nearly as often, as this forum is now without it's most passionate and entertaining member.

Riverskier said:

Bottom line, it is truly sad to see suck overmoderation, and this is a HUGE loss for AZ. I will likely still read, and occasionally post on the forum, but not nearly as often, as this forum is now without it's most passionate and entertaining member.

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I'll miss GSS here and I'm not entirely happy with the way things went down, but c'mon this isn't GSSZone. Save your threats, as someone who just joined in April and has barely over 100 posts you'll hardly be missed. Why don't you try and add some flavor instead of relying on someone else to make the place interesting.

Ummmmm . . . I've been away for a few days . . . I read this entire thread, but I can't find the offending comments. Something about how he used a 9/11 memorial thread to complain about the Iraq war? Shouldn't that have just been deleted as "politics" and the issue been resolved? I know he's been "warned" over and over again, but really, if some asshat (or crazy guy, or psychopath, etc.) wants to post something up on the community bulletin board (to use an analogy that has been used in this thread), then he's fully in his right to do so. And the owner of the bulletin board is fully within his rights to take it down.

GSS posted a lot (a massive amount, actually). When you post so many times, there's going to be a lot of things that offend people. Not to say "grow a thicker skin", but I wish that people would try to ignore the rantings of maniacs. If you were walking down the street, and some stoner was on the side of the road smoking a joint and saying to you, as you were walking by "Maaaaaaaannnnn, the government knocked those towers down . . . Maaaaaaaannnnn, the government is trying to put microchips into the H1N1 vaccine to track everybody by GPS . . . Maaaaaaaaaannnnn, the President isn't an American citizen and he's a nazi/socialist/fascist/communist dictator." You'd ignore him immediately. As someone said, there was a way you could have done that. You just all chose not to.

I agree with that guy who runs that other board that GSS posts on. If 98% of the posts are useful in some way (funny, witty, so mind-bendingly stupid that they become funny, etc.), just delete the offensive posts and be done with it. Maybe it's the Libertarian in me, but I believe that when someone posts something questionable or insensitive or just plain dumb, and then they get called out on it by others, it actually helps everyone as a learning experience. I ignored GSS a lot. So much so, that I didn't realize he smokes massive amounts of weed (maybe THAT'S why those video webcasts weren't funny at all, I wasn't properly prepared to watch them). But not having his voice will make everything around here just a wee bit more boring.

But that's just one man's opinion.

I am not anti-GSS. But I am sick of hearing how his passion for blah blah blah outweighs his (insert descriptive word here) post about 9-11. Seriously? Does someone's passion for something give them carte blanche to insult other people and blow off REPEATED warnings from the mods? There are many historical figures who were passionate about their beliefs but were deemed evil by the masses. Does that mean some of the most vile people in our past and future deserve to be given a break due to their passion? I am big on the idea of being able to say and do what you like.... just be ready to deal with the aftermath. We are all accountable for our actions.

As many have stated, he was searching for the edge and he finally pushed the mods over that edge.

For the record, I don't mind if he was reinstated down the line.

wa-loaf said:

I'll miss GSS here and I'm not entirely happy with the way things went down, but c'mon this isn't GSSZone. Save your threats, as someone who just joined in April and has barely over 100 posts you'll hardly be missed. Why don't you try and add some flavor instead of relying on someone else to make the place interesting.

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Threats? What threat did I make? Is there a minimum post count to have an opinion? Hardly missed? I specificaly said I wasn't leaving. I think you need to re-read my post. And no, this isn't GSSZone, but he was the most active member and brought a lot to this forum, and during the slow times made the site worth reading. Seems logical to check in a little less often without him.

Riverskier said:

Threats? What threat did I make? Is there a minimum post count to have an opinion? Hardly missed? I specificaly said I wasn't leaving. I think you need to re-read my post. And no, this isn't GSSZone, but he was the most active member and brought a lot to this forum, and during the slow times made the site worth reading. Seems logical to check in a little less often without him.

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The threat to be less active (maybe I overstated a bit ...). Why not be more active and make it a place more to your liking?

wa-loaf said:

Why don't you try and add some flavor instead of relying on someone else to make the place interesting.

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I thought about this too . . . I just don't have the personality to post 20-50 times in one thread about random stuff. In fact, I don't have his personality at all. First of all, I don't think people care about what I have to say on many topics (who cares what I'm eating for dinner?). He not only invented those multi-page threads, he (sometimes single-handedly) kept them alive. Also, his hip hop knowledge was pretty good for a 30 year old white guy, and a welcome change in musical tastes for a board of people who listen to classic rock and jam bands. Finally, nobody (and I mean NOBODY) practices Smart Style like the Steeze.