TSA scans and searches

dmc said:

I refuse the full body scan today..
not psyched about images of my naked body laying around and not going to allow myself to be irradiated 2 to 4 times a week.

The guy was not psyched when I opted out.. He also wasn't happy when I request a female to search me.. Then he gave me a nasty look when he ran his fingers up my "junk"..
And the whole staff hated it when the people behind me in line refused as well..

if a terrorist sticks something up there butt - will they start checking there too??

We gota learn from the Israelis...

Get ready for air travel this winter folks!

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campgottagopee said:

Dude, I really don't no how you do it on such a regular basis, maybe you get used to it, but I for one can't stand the hurry up and wait process.

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drjeff said:

Like it or not, the TSA folks in the airports are just doing their jobs. Radiation wise, those scanners emit the equivalent of less than 5 minutes of radiation exposure that you get at altitude on that flight your about to get on. image wise, i'm guessing that you don't have anything that anyone else doesn't have, or that they've seen before.

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dmc said:

It's the price i pay to live where I live and to do what I do...
I'm making good coin.. So I'm hoping to retire early..

But I am actually thinking about finding something else without travel... That would mean i'd have to move to NYC

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WWF-VT said:

I went through the scanner in Boston last week and didn't give it a second thought. This was before all the publicity and this week's news cycle.

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campgottagopee said:

Don't get me wrong---I get it, and friends of mine do the same thing, but it's just so foreign to me. I fly once a year and think it's a big deal---guess I'm just sheltered to the "real world", and I'm okay with that.

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dmc said:

We gota learn from the Israelis...

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Passengers are asked to report three hours before departure. All El Al terminals around the world are closely monitored for security. There are plain-clothes agents and fully armed police or military personnel who patrol the premises for explosives, suspicious behavior, and other threats. Inside the terminal, passengers and their baggage are checked by a trained team. El Al security procedures require that all passengers be interviewed individually prior to boarding, allowing El Al staff to identify possible security threats. Passengers will be asked questions about where they are coming from, the reason for their trip, their job or occupation, and whether they have packed their bags themselves. The likelihood of potential terrorists remaining calm under such questioning is believed to be low.

Critics of El Al note that its security checks on passengers include racial profiling and have argued that such profiling is unfair, irrational, and degrading to those subject to such screening. Supporters of El Al argue that there is nothing inherently racist about passenger profiling and that special scrutiny of Muslims may often be necessary for security purposes.

The airline was also criticized by the Hungarian courts for refusing to search luggage with the passenger present, acting against Hungarian domestic laws which stipulate that only authorized officials are able to undertake such searches. A civil case was brought to the Supreme Court of Israel on 19 March 2008 alleging that El Al's practice of ethnic profiling singles out Arabs for tougher treatment.

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drjeff said:

Like it or not, the TSA folks in the airports are just doing their jobs. Radiation wise, those scanners emit the equivalent of less than 5 minutes of radiation exposure that you get at altitude on that flight your about to get on. image wise, i'm guessing that you don't have anything that anyone else doesn't have, or that they've seen before. Unfortunatley it seems like this is just the price we have to pay these days for an attempt at security.

El Al wise, the biggest impediment to using that style system here is that El Al has roughly 1% of the take offs per day that the US airline industry has - so logistically that's a big issue

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thetrailboss said:

Where have you been? The Israelis have been strip searching folks before they get onto plans and doing many other things that you would argue "invade your privacy" for years!

Let's also try not to let this thread turn into a political trainwreck.

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thetrailboss said:

Where have you been? The Israelis have been strip searching folks before they get onto plans and doing many other things that you would argue "invade your privacy" for years!

Let's also try not to let this thread turn into a political trainwreck.

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mondeo said:

I'm just baffled by people who think a blurry outline of themselves is a bigger invasion of privacy than the guys in checked baggage rifiling through their stuff. It isn't even as big an invasion of privacy as removing my shoes. That tells everyone I have foot odor. The scanners have less detail than a mental undressing would. Except for the hidden weapons part.

In the list of added security measures over the last decade, this is the one that annoys me the least.

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thetrailboss said:

Let's also try not to let this thread turn into a political trainwreck.

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dmc said:

It's the principal AND you can clearly make out images.. And some of those images have been leaked..

I've had my bags torn apart... Not a problem.. It makes more sense then a scanner..

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Puck it said:

They do behavioral profiles on everyone. They have not had a security breach in 8 years. I would be pissed if my 16 daughter got pulled aside got a "ping" as Nappy called it.

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dmc said:

yup... once again we agree..

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Puck it said:

I agree totally. They do not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling that will stop them from blowing up planes. A suicide bomber could kill more people standing in the security line on busy day then on a plane. Think about. And he would not even have gotten to the checkpoint.

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