Creative trail use fail

[legalskier]

Vernon man critically injured after Jeep with wife and son inside veers off ski trail

"A married couple from Vernon and their 6-year-old son were inside a Jeep on Saturday afternoon when it veered off the steepest of Mountain Creek's 42 ski trails and flipped over about 20 times while tumbling 500 feet down the mountain, authorities said Monday. ***"

Story w/ pics: http://www.njherald.com/story/22172...-injured-after-jeep-veers-off-steep-ski-trail

 

[MadMadWorld]

"That is a double-black diamond, super-expert ski trail. It's the steepest trail we operate at Mountain Creek," Benneyan added.

HAHA

 

[ScottySkis]

"That is a double-black diamond, super-expert ski trail. It's the steepest trail we operate at Mountain Creek," Benneyan added.

HAHA

Yes that is the funniest thing I heard today.
I hope the family is okay though.

 

[bvibert]

That'll buff right out.

I hope everyone recovers okay..

 

[Puck it]

What an idiot!!

 

[andyzee]

"That is a double-black diamond, super-expert ski trail. It's the steepest trail we operate at Mountain Creek," Benneyan added.

HAHA

Yeah, "super-expert". , mountain creek, right.

VERNON — A married couple from Vernon and their 6-year-old son were inside a Jeep on Saturday afternoon when it veered off the steepest of Mountain Creek's 42 ski trails and flipped over about 20 times while tumbling 500 feet down the mountain, authorities said Monday.
The driver, Michael Fertitta, 39, was in serious condition at Morristown Medical Center on Tuesday afternoon, hospital spokesman Rob Seman said. His wife was discharged Monday, while the 6-year-old is still hospitalized and is in good condition.
All three were airlifted to Morristown following the crash, police said.
The boy, whose name was withheld,

Bet his last name is Fertitta,

 

[HD333]

WTF, this story will not help my case of convincing the wife we "need" a 4 Door Wrangler.

Guy sounds like an idiot. Hope everyone comes out of it ok.

 

[ss20]

Who cares about steep, I think it was the rocks that hurt them...

 

[AdironRider]

What an idiot!!

I like to offroad myself, and this is just part of the game. Doesn't make anyone an idiot. This is no different than someone calling you an idiot because you blew out your knee skiing, or worse, you take your child skiing and they get hurt.

 

[fbrissette]

I like to offroad myself, and this is just part of the game. Doesn't make anyone an idiot. This is no different than someone calling you an idiot because you blew out your knee skiing, or worse, you take your child skiing and they get hurt.

I do not ski anywhere where a fall means possible death. I don't offroad, but if I did, I would not it anywhere where a miscue mean possible death.

Doing this with a 6-year old definitely qualifies him as an idiot. It may even get him a Darwin award nomination.

The skiing equivalent would be to bring your 6-year old on a 50-degree couloir with rocks at the bottom.

 

[AdironRider]

I do not ski anywhere where a fall means possible death. I don't offroad, but if I did, I would not it anywhere where a miscue mean possible death.

Doing this with a 6-year old definitely qualifies him as an idiot. It may even get him a Darwin award nomination.

The skiing equivalent would be to bring your 6-year old on a 50-degree couloir with rocks at the bottom.

Ok, you do realize you can die skiing green runs right. Or that the majority of ski related deaths occur on groomed intermediate runs. Nevermind, more than a few 5 year olds can, will, and do ski runs like Corbets. A good friend of mines kid just did it this year. Also, its probably more dangerous driving your kids to school (due to distracted other drivers you have zero control over) than in a controlled environment with arguably the best off road vehicle available on the market today. I suppose all children should just be put in buffer padded balls, never swim in the ocean (want to talk real danger), or do anything other than play video games and do homework. Screw living, hurry up and get on with it in the virtual world. Accidents can and do happen, doesn't make someone an idiot.

 

[JimG.]

Not sure what to make of this story.

Why were they offroading at Mountain Creek? That's kind of like scuba diving in your bathtub.

Is offroading a big activity at MC?

 

[fbrissette]

Ok, you do realize you can die skiing green runs right. Or that the majority of ski related deaths occur on groomed intermediate runs. Nevermind, more than a few 5 year olds can, will, and do ski runs like Corbets. A good friend of mines kid just did it this year. Also, its probably more dangerous driving your kids to school (due to distracted other drivers you have zero control over) than in a controlled environment with arguably the best off road vehicle available on the market today. I suppose all children should just be put in buffer padded balls, never swim in the ocean (want to talk real danger), or do anything other than play video games and do homework. Screw living, hurry up and get on with it in the virtual world. Accidents can and do happen, doesn't make someone an idiot.

As a double black diamond on a ski hill, the run is probably around 30 degrees (60%). As long as you keep it straight it'll be fine, but on such a slope, going off-axis will result in a catastrophic tumble, and very possible death. We can agree to disagree. This guy is definitely an idiot in my book. You can have plenty of fun offroading as a family on different terrain.

Corbett is not a 'fall and die' terrain. It's a 15 foot drop on a 40 degree slope.

You are right, you can die on a green slope. The risk of dying is however much higher driving up a rocky double diamond ski run. Life is all about odds. I have done enough off-road on an ATV to know that slopes that steep are for experts. To make it clear, going up that run does not make him an idiot. Bringing his wife and son is what makes him an idiot.


I think this guy is an idiot. You probably think he is cool and just having fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNADLR2LVQg

id•i•ot (ˈɪd i ət)

n.1. an utterly stupid or foolish person.

 

[legalskier]

Why were they offroading at Mountain Creek? That's kind of like scuba diving in your bathtub.

Is offroading a big activity at MC?

"Off-roading on natural terrain is popular in Sussex County, but not allowed without the permission of the landowner. DEP spokesman Larry Ragonese said Jeeps and other motorized vehicles are not permitted in either state-owned parks or wildlife management areas."

 

[AdironRider]

"Off-roading on natural terrain is popular in Sussex County, but not allowed without the permission of the landowner. DEP spokesman Larry Ragonese said Jeeps and other motorized vehicles are not permitted in either state-owned parks or wildlife management areas."

I think this falls out of that realm as its a right of way for utilities. Those are the most popular off roading locations, especially in the Northeast where there isn't much else available.

 

[AdironRider]

As a double black diamond on a ski hill, the run is probably around 30 degrees (60%). As long as you keep it straight it'll be fine, but on such a slope, going off-axis will result in a catastrophic tumble, and very possible death. We can agree to disagree. This guy is definitely an idiot in my book. You can have plenty of fun offroading as a family on different terrain.

Corbett is not a 'fall and die' terrain. It's a 15 foot drop on a 40 degree slope.

You are right, you can die on a green slope. The risk of dying is however much higher driving up a rocky double diamond ski run. Life is all about odds. I have done enough off-road on an ATV to know that slopes that steep are for experts. To make it clear, going up that run does not make him an idiot. Bringing his wife and son is what makes him an idiot.


I think this guy is an idiot. You probably think he is cool and just having fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNADLR2LVQg

id•i•ot(ˈɪd i ət)

n.1. an utterly stupid or foolish person.

So are you just making up stuff to fit your argument. Skiing with the family is inherently much more dangerous than off-roading.

 

[fbrissette]

So are you just making up stuff to fit your argument. Skiing with the family is inherently much more dangerous than off-roading.

I think a lot depends on where you ski and where you offroad.

I would say you're more likely to get minor injuries skiing, but more likely to suffer major injuries offroading. However, both activities can be practiced safely. Off-roading up a sustained 60% rocky slope with your family is not only not safe in my book, but it's stupid.

You may think it's fine and I'm OK with that. You're the one who seem to have a hard time accepting a different viewpoint. I just came back from 10 days of alpine touring in the Alps glaciers. I think it was a safe endeavour. My in-laws thought it was stupid. Perception of risk varies tremendously from one person to another. Again, let's agree to disagree.

 

[AdironRider]

Fine by me, I just find it amusing that you just brush of the signature expert ski run in the continental US as no big deal.

 

[ScottySkis]

Fine by me, I just find it amusing that you just brush of the signature expert ski run in the continental US as no big deal.

At Mountain Creek, their expert for no one.

 

[fbrissette]

Fine by me, I just find it amusing that you just brush of the signature expert ski run in the continental US as no big deal.

I did not say Corbet was not a big deal. I said it was not a 'fall and you die' run. I have not been to Jackson Hole but I'll take my friend's word that it's about as intimidating as any ski run they've ever seen. Correct me but I don't think Corbet is even rated as the toughest run in Jackson Hole. You need balls to drop in but it's relatively easy after it.