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Another ski death....Please be careful

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FWIW - I skied Mt Ellen yesterday and assumed there was an accident when Lower Rim Run was closed for a couple of hours mid day. The Lower FIS trail sign is padded. Condolences to this young woman's family and friends.
 

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So is that the deal? Man-made structure needs to be padded but natural ones can be left alone?

Seems a bit illogical. If the skier isn't in control enough to avoid a clearly visible stationary structure, whether the structure is man made or natural seems to be purely a matter of luck.
 

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My condolences go to the family and friends of this skier. I hope this doesn't turn into a lawsuit it was a tragic accident and nothing more.
 

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So is that the deal? Man-made structure needs to be padded but natural ones can be left alone?

Seems a bit illogical. If the skier isn't in control enough to avoid a clearly visible stationary structure, whether the structure is man made or natural seems to be purely a matter of luck.

+1
 

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19 YOF lost is a tragedy. My heart goes out to the family. I am so very sorry.

My highest respect to the Ski Patrol and EMS first responders. I know this is extremely tough on you guys and girls. Make sure you find a way to talk it out with other first responders about what your dealing with. If you need time off, then take it. This may be more than you originally signed up for and that is ok. I am Captain of a Rescue Squad. I know first hand everyone has their limits. Nothing wrong with that. Its actually a good thing. It shows we care.

So very sad
 

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Speaking of padded trail signs. Saw someone ski into one at Killington yesterday while riding up the Skye peak quad. It was padded. He hit it with his right shin with the ski on the other side of the post. He popped out. If it hadn't been padded he may have broken his shin.
 

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So is that the deal? Man-made structure needs to be padded but natural ones can be left alone?

Seems a bit illogical. If the skier isn't in control enough to avoid a clearly visible stationary structure, whether the structure is man made or natural seems to be purely a matter of luck.

The law sometimes draws a distinction between acting and letting happen. As odd as it might seem, a resort might have an obligation not to erect some structure where a skier might collide with it, but have no duty to remove a tree or rock in the exact same location. Under ski area specific law, colliding with trails signs (and lift towers, etc.) might be one of the assumed risks of the sport, so the distinction might not be applicable here. Very sorry to hear about this trajedy. So many risks in our sport.
 

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condolences.

my understanding is that she was going down rim run sitting on the back of her skis (as some youngsters are want to do), when she lost control, left the trail and hit the sign.
 

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So is that the deal? Man-made structure needs to be padded but natural ones can be left alone?

Seems a bit illogical. If the skier isn't in control enough to avoid a clearly visible stationary structure, whether the structure is man made or natural seems to be purely a matter of luck.

I cannot say that I see many signs with padding. They are generally at the point of a tree line and as someone stated earlier if it was not going to be the sigh then the trees are generally next.

This is a tragedy for sure! I imagine the horror of those skiing with her or in any of these cases.
 

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condolences.

my understanding is that she was going down rim run sitting on the back of her skis (as some youngsters are want to do), when she lost control, left the trail and hit the sign.


I have seen kids wipe out that way and it is not pretty! All the weight on the back of the ski.
 

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condolences.

my understanding is that she was going down rim run sitting on the back of her skis (as some youngsters are want to do), when she lost control, left the trail and hit the sign.

Sick to my stomach hearing about this. I told my kids (10ys old) about it today, they had looks of shock on their faces that someone could die from skiing. I feel like I need to explain to them further how it happened (according to above). Maybe they will understand why I tell them not to sit back like that.

Hug your kids.
 

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Skiing with my son yesterday one of our conversations went like this: "I don't worry too much about broken arms and legs...they suck, but you recover. What I really worry about is one of us hitting a tree or a lift tower at a high speed ...they call it "blunt force trauma to the head (or abdomen)...people die from that." Be mindful of the consequences of a loss of control at high speed near immovable objects. Be careful.
 

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Skiing with my son yesterday one of our conversations went like this: "I don't worry too much about broken arms and legs...they suck, but you recover. What I really worry about is one of us hitting a tree or a lift tower at a high speed ...they call it "blunt force trauma to the head (or abdomen)...people die from that." Be mindful of the consequences of a loss of control at high speed near immovable objects. Be careful.

Yup. Right now the conditions are prime for these type of accident. Lots of wind blown trails right now. You can go from skiing a PP groomer at 30 mph to hard pack ice and that can be really scary.
 

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Love how its guaranteed in these threads for one or two people to try and pass the blame to the ski resort.

Skiing is inherently dangerous.
 
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