ne_skier
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Getting me excited...Yes!!!
Never been to Magic early in the season, what do they usually open first?
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Getting me excited...Yes!!!
Not a usual year so need Do Work or Jamaica Man to chime in. My real question is do they open with just Green, or wait until both Red and Green can run?Getting me excited...
Never been to Magic early in the season, what do they usually open first?
“People want to be able to ski, and passholders can come and ski without a hard reservation,” he said. The southern Vermont resort usually sells about 1,000 season passes each year and this year sold 1,750. About 10% of Magic’s day pass skiers in a typical year are Vermonters, he said.
“If they’re from an impacted state that is forced to quarantine, it’s not really a manageable solution for them,” said Steve Wright, the resort’s general manager. Jay Peak usually sells about 1,600 season passes each year, but because half of its skiers usually come from Canada — and won’t this year, because the border is closed — those pass sales were down about 30% this year, he said.
In case any of you are wondering, Magic sold 75% more season passes this year than average. They even beat Jay’s average. That’s pretty impressive!
The same claim was made last year -not having the new chair on line last season would piss people off leading to a loss in sales this year.There is still another double next to that one. There are only really lines when there are race events, which aren't happening this year. The quad will be nice for opening bell, but not needed.
The electric drive is operating.
I counter bet by and large purchases were not made with any "claimed completion" in mind.
There is still another double next to that one. There are only really lines when there are race events, which aren't happening this year. The quad will be nice for opening bell, but not needed.
The electric drive is operating.
Even if Black's open this year, I'll probably be sticking to Red. Just a cooler lift in my opinion. Black should take the crowds off of it as well, so that's an added bonusThe same claim was made last year -not having the new chair on line last season would piss people off leading to a loss in sales this year.
Riding the red chair is well worth a 10 minute wait. Its just like MRG, its part of the mountain experience in terms of snow quality and uncrowded slopes.
People are tired of the mega resort experience and want something authentic.
You're missing the point re: capacity and need of the new chair. You're talking about (conservatively) 50% more people on an average weekend due to the 75% increase in pass sales. That alone, would at least slightly increase crowding under 'normal' operations.
I'd expect just about every ski area in VT to see a drastic decrease in day ticket sales, as non-dedicated skiers who may go say once a month at most won't find it worthwhile to risk Covid, not go into a base lodge, and for some states, sacrifice 1-2 weeks of time to go. This year's gonna be not only for the very dedicated, but the very dedicated people who can go despite their occupation etcSeriously doubt Magic will see a 50% rise in skier visits this year.
1) Not all skiers have season pass, so even under normal circumstances a 75% increase in pass holders would not lead to a corresponding increase in skier visits.
2) Some of the new season ticket buyers were buying individual tickets last year, so they can’t be counted as additional visitors (though they might visit more often)
3) Magic has lowered the daily ticket cap from 1500 to 1100 tickets.
4) All out of state season season ticket holders are now subject to quarantine which is likely to reduce their pass usage, not everyone will respect the quarantine but some will.
5) Base lodge restrictions, having to use your car as lodge, etc. is likely to reduce turnout from both casual skiers and season ticket holders.
Seriously doubt Magic will see a 50% rise in skier visits this year.
1) Not all skiers have season pass, so even under normal circumstances a 75% increase in pass holders would not lead to a corresponding increase in skier visits.
2) Some of the new season ticket buyers were buying individual tickets last year, so they can’t be counted as additional visitors (though they might visit more often)
3) Magic has lowered the daily ticket cap from 1500 to 1100 tickets.
4) All out of state season season ticket holders are now subject to quarantine which is likely to reduce their pass usage, not everyone will respect the quarantine but some will.
5) Base lodge restrictions, having to use your car as lodge, etc. is likely to reduce turnout from both casual skiers and season ticket holders.
I'd expect just about every ski area in VT to see a drastic decrease in day ticket sales, as non-dedicated skiers who may go say once a month at most won't find it worthwhile to risk Covid, not go into a base lodge, and for some states, sacrifice 1-2 weeks of time to go. This year's gonna be not only for the very dedicated, but the very dedicated people who can go despite their occupation etc
Let's get this straight. Magic will open with Green. I think they also want multiple ways down. Jamaicaman is hyper competent at managing what arises and will stick 100% to the rules. I think the Vermont out of state quarantine rules are not going away. Crowds will be fairly thin, and if they are not, Vermont may well be checking plates in the parking lots. At least putting flyers on cars.There is still another double next to that one. There are only really lines when there are race events, which aren't happening this year. The quad will be nice for opening bell, but not needed.
The electric drive is operating.
I counter bet by and large purchases were not made with any "claimed completion" in mind.
Apparently VT law enforcement will be sifting through the lodging and ski resort affidavits as well just to make sure nobody's flying under the radarLet's get this straight. Magic will open with Green. I think they also want multiple ways down. Jamaicaman is hyper competent at managing what arises and will stick 100% to the rules. I think the Vermont out of state quarantine rules are not going away. Crowds will be fairly thin, and if they are not, Vermont may well be checking plates in the parking lots. At least putting flyers on cars.
Joe
Where did you hear that / what does that actually mean?Apparently VT law enforcement will be sifting through the lodging and ski resort affidavits as well just to make sure nobody's flying under the radar
Hotel owner told us. Apparently somebody will be sifting through the affidavits and searching for any obvious violations. I doubt she's lying, as she as well as virtually every other hotel in the state that's in a ski town will see severe losses due to a lack of clientele. They don't really have any incentive to chase away guests from a business standpointWhere did you hear that / what does that actually mean?
Hotel owner told us. Apparently somebody will be sifting through the affidavits and searching for any obvious violations. I doubt she's lying, as she as well as virtually every other hotel in the state that's in a ski town will see severe losses due to a lack of clientele. They don't really have any incentive to chase away guests from a business standpoint