Buy Now and save a ton of Money

[1dog]

First, let me state, this is not a political post and I hope it does not turn into one of the posts where we all go off in tangents that we shouldn't.

As someone who is in the consumer products business and is directly impacted by all the new tariffs, I thought I would remind people if you want deals on anything, buy now! The new 54% tariffs that are being charged to everything coming out of China will have a huge impact on hard and soft goods. That $700 Patagonia jacket will be north of $1000. (actually I think Patagonia makes product in Vietnam which has a new 49% tariff) Helmets and goggles (all made in China) will be heavily impacted. Skis + boots coming out of Europe (Switzerland for example has a new 31% tariff) will be heavily impacted. Personally, I'm a big fan of buying used through powder7 and they have great deals,... but eventually even the second hand market will be impacted. Price increases will take sometime to work through the system, but they are coming. The one possible workaround is to buy your stuff in Canada - but that would require a trip to Canada (ecom coming from Canada into the USA is impacted too)

Big fan of Powder7 and Lone Pine sites as well.


Is anyone asking the question why our 'close allies' or neutral countries are charging us tariffs? So far, I believe Israel, S Vietnam ( possibly S Korea) and a couple others have dropped theirs ( this is the whole point BTW) We have the largest ( by far) markets in the world, so access is a privilege. And you can have the access as long as your tariffs aren't any higher than zero. 250% on milk into Canada?

MIT did the study on tariffs for Chine rom 1st 20% tariff (that Biden admin never lifted. .. hhhmmmm . .) and .7% increase to the US consumer was the result on those products.

China is a mess- 40% of their production comes to USA - they need us more than we need them. And since the theft of technology and the threatening withholding of certain medical.-based antibiotics, huge tariffs on US autos, etc. . . . . its about time we stopped playing Mr. Walk On My Back ( with high heels)

Who thinks we could just keep going down the road of debt and deficit spending? Middle class gutted from NAFTA and other trade agreements.

A short 6 min explanation from a Stanford guy:

https://x.com/FreyjaTarte/status/1908281098141892883

( and I do think there will be short or medium term pain - no way around it)

 

[snoseek]

I'll just hang onto the equipment I was planning to sell at a ski-swap this year until this gets figured out. I'm not paying jacked-up covid prices for new stuff again.

Yep I mtb is in good shape, bought 2 pairs of demo skis last fall, boots only 2 seasons old and car has under 30k miles. I'm ready to double down on lentils and beans. I'm out on all this fucking nonesense

 

[kingslug]

Guess ill keep the car and truck going for a few more years.

 

[thetrailboss]

Just pulled the trigger on new skis due to this concern.

 

[snoseek]

Just pulled the trigger on new skis due to this concern.

I bought some knives for work last week as mine are dead and anything crafted in the states is way out of my price range even though they're beautiful.

 

[2planks2coasts]

Big fan of Powder7 and Lone Pine sites as well.


Is anyone asking the question why our 'close allies' or neutral countries are charging us tariffs? So far, I believe Israel, S Vietnam ( possibly S Korea) and a couple others have dropped theirs ( this is the whole point BTW) We have the largest ( by far) markets in the world, so access is a privilege. And you can have the access as long as your tariffs aren't any higher than zero. 250% on milk into Canada?

MIT did the study on tariffs for Chine rom 1st 20% tariff (that Biden admin never lifted. .. hhhmmmm . .) and .7% increase to the US consumer was the result on those products.

China is a mess- 40% of their production comes to USA - they need us more than we need them. And since the theft of technology and the threatening withholding of certain medical.-based antibiotics, huge tariffs on US autos, etc. . . . . its about time we stopped playing Mr. Walk On My Back ( with high heels)

Who thinks we could just keep going down the road of debt and deficit spending? Middle class gutted from NAFTA and other trade agreements.

A short 6 min explanation from a Stanford guy:

https://x.com/FreyjaTarte/status/1908281098141892883

( and I do think there will be short or medium term pain - no way around it)

Stop repeating lies.

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/04/trumps-misleading-claim-on-canadian-dairy-tariffs/

 

[jaytrem]

A short 6 min explanation from a Stanford guy:

https://x.com/FreyjaTarte/status/1908281098141892883

Seems like these new tariffs are based more on trade deficits rather than tariffs charged by other countries. Kinda makes everything the guy says in the video irrelevant. Example, Vietnam charges an average of 9.4% tariff rate, but our new rate on them is 46%. Obviously that's a lot different than just matching their rate. The Stanford guy conveniently left that stuff out.

 

[2Planker]

No one can explain the "formula" used to calculate the tariffs..
OR No one really wants to take credit for something that could possibly cause a Global Recession....

Companies coming back to manufacture in the USA are years away.
Americans do not and will not work in factories.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Americans do not and will not work in factories.

This gets repeated a lot and is illogical. People will do virtually any job if the price is right.

The real question is whether or not you will pay $1,000 for the currently $485 television.

 

[2Planker]

Hasbro CEO is a friend and according to them, hasbro can not afford to manufacture in the USA and that's w/ almost FREE land from the state of RI.
He's the one that says Americans will never work for $15/hr making plastic toys.....

 

[SkiingInABlueDream]

I gotta wonder how many trumpies are quietly scrambling to buy x/y/z whatever right now before prices increase from the tariffs

 

[djd66]

This gets repeated a lot and is illogical. People will do virtually any job if the price is right.

The real question is whether or not you will pay $1,000 for the currently $485 television.

$1000??? Seriously? That TV will cost $3,000 in USA

Take from someone that has spent a considerable about of time in Chinese factories - there is no fucking way you can get Americans to do the jobs that Chinese workers do. More importantly, we don't want those jobs. The job we should focus on are medical devices and pharmaceuticals. Rubber dog shit should be made in China, not USA. The task of moving supply chains will take years (like 10 years). And where are you going to build all these factories? Real-estate is too expensive and there's a ton of red tape to build anything.

There was an article in the Journal yesterday talking about building an iPhones in USA. The had a group of experts look at doing this, the conclusion - it would be easier to teach an Eagle how to use a screw driver than it would be to build iPhones in USA.

 

[BenedictGomez]

He's the one that says Americans will never work for $15/hr making plastic toys.....

So pay them $20 an hour like the starting wage at Costco, which has a backlog of people who want to work there.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

i just got new boots. im actually pretty annoyed. i got my boots 2 seasons ago, worked with a bootfitter, had barely anything done to them (one shell punch on a weird nub i have). skied about 100 days. two weeks ago i was booting up and realized that somehow the plastic on the piece that connects the buckle somehow fucking ripped and was hanging by a thread. hard to describe and i dont have my boots handy to photograph. i tried to secure it with duct tape but thats a temp fix. very annoying. 2 seasons.

i was able to find the exact same boot and size from colroado ski shop near mount snow for 50% off retail. they are a 2 year old model after all. i just ordered those so i dont have to deal with bootfitting again, and so i dont need to do anything to my bindings. fuckin annoying tho. hoping this completely freakish break is a fluke. how the heck does plastic tear!? all i can think is that i put them away in a weird position and they froze in my car?

 

[jimmywilson69]

I mean we're paying fast food managers $20/hr

I feel like factory work is going to need to start higher than that.

I'd love for everything to be made in the good one USA, but it's not 1890 or 1940 anymore... you can't just erase the globalization of manufacturing

 

[djd66]

So pay them $20 an hour like the starting wage at Costco, which has a backlog of people who want to work there.

not sure what part of the country Costco has a backlog,… here in Mass you can’t find help to work in Dunks @ $20/hr

 

[BenedictGomez]

not sure what part of the country Costco has a backlog,… here in Mass you can’t find help to work in Dunks @ $20/hr

Where does Costco have a backlog of applicants? Pretty much everywhere. Probably also in Massachusetts I'd suspect.

 

[deadheadskier]

The job we should focus on are medical devices and pharmaceuticals.

There was an article in the Journal yesterday talking about building an iPhones in USA. The had a group of experts look at doing this, the conclusion - it would be easier to teach an Eagle how to use a screw driver than it would be to build iPhones in USA.

Until last week, I spent the prior 8 years working for the largest medical device company in Asia, third largest in its product categories globally. No way could what that company produces in Asia be doable here for a remotely similar cost. And it's not just the factory labor costs, engineering labor savings are massive too. You're talking 3-5 engineers for the price of 1 here. And it goes on and on. The marketing personnel, accounting, IT etc. all a fraction the cost. I had a marketing product manager with me visiting customers a couple of years ago. Their US counterparts make $150-200k+ here easily . Comfortable living in most places her in the US. This guy was living with his parents, wife and child in a two bedroom flat in Shenzhen. Multi generational households are still the norm. And he seemed grateful for that lifestyle because had he been doing poorly in school by middle school, he'd have been destined for the factory job.

GE even knows this. They're down the street (as is the iPhone factory ) and produce a huge amount of components there for final assembly here to still be able to say "American made."

It'll be interesting to see what this tariff war does with an incredibly fragile healthcare system in this country. At least in the Northeast. All of the largest IDNs around here are going on 3 years of operating in the red. Massive layoffs and capital freezes. Now throw massive increases in supply chain on top? Could get ugly

 

[djd66]

Until last week, I spent the prior 8 years working for the largest medical device company in Asia, third largest in its product categories globally. No way could what that company produces in Asia be doable here for a remotely similar cost. And it's not just the factory labor costs, engineering labor savings are massive too. You're talking 3-5 engineers for the price of 1 here. And it goes on and on. The marketing personnel, accounting, IT etc. all a fraction the cost. I had a marketing product manager with me visiting customers a couple of years ago. Their US counterparts make $150-200k+ here easily . Comfortable living in most places her in the US. This guy was living with his parents, wife and child in a two bedroom flat in Shenzhen. Multi generational households are still the norm. And he seemed grateful for that lifestyle because had he been doing poorly in school by middle school, he'd have been destined for the factory job.

GE even knows this. They're down the street (as is the iPhone factory ) and produce a huge amount of components there for final assembly here to still be able to say "American made."

It'll be interesting to see what this tariff war does with an incredibly fragile healthcare system in this country. At least in the Northeast. All of the largest IDNs around here are going on 3 years of operating in the red. Massive layoffs and capital freezes. Now throw massive increases in supply chain on top? Could get ugly

did you get laid off? If so, real sorry to hear that.

 

[kingslug]

China has some factories where you pretty much spend your life in..you never have to leave...thats how you make toasters that sell for 25 bucks. That will never happen here.
This whole thing is a disaster.