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Save the Whale

deadheadskier

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Yes, it's a Sun Kid with platter/handles and they've been working on it for 2 seasons. Complete waste of money.

It seems to be a better option than the other T Bar they added a few years back. Mainly because of the terrain it will service. You could still setup a short race course off the new lift if/when the double goes down

That said, I think you're right in that it's probably not a great use of funds when snowmaking and saving for the eventual double replacement should be the top priorities. I think it's bananas they're talking $3-4M to replace the double. How much is Pat's spending on the Hurricane replacement? It can't be that much
 

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It seems to be a better option than the other T Bar they added a few years back. Mainly because of the terrain it will service. You could still setup a short race course off the new lift if/when the double goes down

That said, I think you're right in that it's probably not a great use of funds when snowmaking and saving for the eventual double replacement should be the top priorities. I think it's bananas they're talking $3-4M to replace the double. How much is Pat's spending on the Hurricane replacement? It can't be that much
I know it's a much shorter fixed grip vs a longer highspeed, but if the reported numbers for Killingtons Superstar at 12 million, Jay's Bonnie potential replacement at $15 million (or more based on how the tariff situation is when they sign the papers) and Wachusett's at 20 million, $3-4 million for a replacement double at the Whale seems like it very well could be a reasonable number today
 

deadheadskier

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I know it's a much shorter fixed grip vs a longer highspeed, but if the reported numbers for Killingtons Superstar at 12 million, Jay's Bonnie potential replacement at $15 million (or more based on how the tariff situation is when they sign the papers) and Wachusett's at 20 million, $3-4 million for a replacement double at the Whale seems like it very well could be a reasonable number today

Maybe for new? I can't see why they'd bother with new. Pat's pound for pound, might be the best run ski area in New England. It's a slamming busy place. They buy used lifts.

Pat's is a better comp for Whaleback than Killington, Jay etc
 

Newpylong

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It seems to be a better option than the other T Bar they added a few years back. Mainly because of the terrain it will service. You could still setup a short race course off the new lift if/when the double goes down

That said, I think you're right in that it's probably not a great use of funds when snowmaking and saving for the eventual double replacement should be the top priorities. I think it's bananas they're talking $3-4M to replace the double. How much is Pat's spending on the Hurricane replacement? It can't be that much

Yes, it would be fine if the double goes down but knowing them my fear is they will sandbag snowmaking off the top for Christmas when this thing is operational. We were able to get open off the summit the week before Christmas every year, often in addition to the T-Bar. They have been unable to do it prior to New Years. That place requires so much capital in other areas besides additional lifts it just seems insane to spend it on that - unless the lift was forced down their throats by Ford Sayre, etc which in all likelihood could be the case.
 
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