I saw a comment last week expressing shock that they were going to open MJ with such low coverage....
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Wasatch Update: November 2025
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$2.64 in NH for reg.gas. I agree with these premises- this weekend will be a tell-tale but if its MLK weekend- booking would have taken place a month or more ago.
Pats in playoffs so that may affect Boston crowds ( dunno why- one can watch from anywhere). The demographics of skiers change much? Seems more Gen Z and Mils are spending money, but I have no inside intel on consumer spending. Much easier to get house or hotel rooms last minute than in past years.
kingslug
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Yesterday backside at alta opened and you would think it would be nuts..nope...
Now when mineral opened the line was over an hour..looked like 2000 people were there.
Pc is dead...although dream catcher opened and that got a little busy.
SB definitely has way more crowds than alta.
Free parking on weekends plays a big part.
Now when mineral opened the line was over an hour..looked like 2000 people were there.
Pc is dead...although dream catcher opened and that got a little busy.
SB definitely has way more crowds than alta.
Free parking on weekends plays a big part.
4aprice
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You guys keep saying PC is dead. Any chance that has to do with Sundance moving to Boulder? Wasn’t that usually around this time?
BenedictGomez
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Might be almost another 2 full weeks without snow. Horrendous.
Sadly Sundance is still in Park City this year, late January to early February. Good riddance.
ColdRain&Snow
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Gotta think most all the people with refundable deposits on hotel/airbnb reservations for January cancelled them before christmas, non refundable people are there.
This is the last year of it in PC IIRC.
Reminds me of a funny story, back quite a few years ago, I had a short leather jacket with a fur collar on it- yes real- standing on top of Main St near Grappa I think, sunny day so sun glasses on during Sundance, my hair was quite long. . . . more than a few people stopped and looked, assuming I was a movie person there for Sundance.
Had fun with that. . . . wife thought I was crazy. . . .that was last time I ever went in Jan, moved to Feb, now March, 'just to be certain' about conditions- has paid huge dividends.
kingslug
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Bad weather..probably a lot of canceled bookings. Last year even with the strike the place was a zoo..gondola line was over an hour all the time..but we had a ton of snow.
My notes from last year..notice the word storm..used many times..
4aprice
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Won't be in the way of anything in Boulder. They can have it.
kingslug
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Even less people on the slopes..those slugs..don't ski
FWIW I have seen and heard multiple reports that conditions at Deer Valley are complete garbage. No snow. Many runs are not groomed for some reason. And the new expansion remains largely shuttered.
BenedictGomez
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Tough to unpack that without knowing the person's expectations. It's true this winter is absolutely horrible here, and statistically one of the worst, but the latest snow really improved things. I was even skiing in the trees of Park City on Saturday without fear. If they said Deer Valley was garbage prior to the last storm though that would make sense. Two weeks ago you could have literally played golf at Canyons there was so little snow.
If I can get out of work early tomorrow I may try to hike to the top of Jupiter Peak & see what it's like at the tippy-top & report in.
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Went to DV this weekend for the first time expecting expanded excellence and got condensed mediocrity. Most of the trails are not groomed. I suspect there's not enough snow to groom. Not having to dodge meat missile snowboarders was really nice, a huge plus.
It was funny to see all the fur collars on the ski Barbies at DV, definitely a Biff and Buffy crowd.
I give them credit for blowing snow and getting many of the lifts open. It was still much better than the low altitude boilerplate at Snowbasin this year, the supposed #1 ski resort in the country? I am calling BS on that award
BenedictGomez
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Yeah, that's ridiculous. The #1 ski lodges in the country I'll buy, but that's about it.
One person skied Sunday and was not happy…
The problem is no snow + top warm to make snow.
kingslug
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Can dv be that much worse than pc?
Pc is totaly skiable with miles of runs.
I went from canyons to Jupiter and encountered no ice and decent coverage.
I've skied much much worse.
Jupiter was covered.
Pc is totaly skiable with miles of runs.
I went from canyons to Jupiter and encountered no ice and decent coverage.
I've skied much much worse.
Jupiter was covered.
machski
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Well, the expanded excellence does have a ton of terrain at even lower elevations than the balance of the original DV and/or PC. So yeah, in a lean year that expansion could be thin and weak.
BenedictGomez
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Yes, but Deer Valley proper shouldn't be in terrible shape.
Even the lowest elevation at Snow Park looks acceptable from their webcam. It's really the new, "excellence" that's even lower than this that they cant get open. It's funny, I never go to the DV webcam page, but I notice they dont have an "Excellence Webcam" anywhere in that areal. LOL Gee, I wonder why.
And that's really what the problem is, because so much of our snow so far has been snow >7,500 and rain < 7,500. The low elevation trails on the Park City side (below) still isnt open and it's mid-January.
Again, what I am seeing is that the warm temps are what is killing us. In previous droughts it was colder and/or we had sufficient cold weather before to make snow and build a base.