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    I was going to mention Whistler as an exception. ...

    I was going to mention Whistler as an exception. Being a bump dork, however, I am partial to Winter Park.
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    Yeah, it's hard to tell. I imagine it would draw...

    Yeah, it's hard to tell. I imagine it would draw in a lot more of the Pocono crowd who would like to have the other options for some variation and maybe a trip out west. Maybe the inevitable...
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    I have a strong preference for Ikon's offerings,...

    I have a strong preference for Ikon's offerings, both east and west. I guess I could see myself doing some late season days at Hunter on Epic. Would probably still get a K spring pass. I wonder...
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    That was the rumor. I'm glad it didn't pan out. ...

    That was the rumor. I'm glad it didn't pan out. I have little interest in visiting Epic's other offerings, east or west, and would just as well not have pass price go up (Vail would probably...
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    Maybe Vail can implement luxury bus service from...

    Maybe Vail can implement luxury bus service from Manhattan to Hunter. I would not pay a premium for the current bus experience. Kind of interested to see what happens. I think the current bus...
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    Nah, but the people who have to take ski buses to...

    Nah, but the people who have to take ski buses to Hunter probably would.
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    Is a Hunter bus trip from Manhattan going to cost...

    Is a Hunter bus trip from Manhattan going to cost $200+ now? Maybe there is a silver lining in this.
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    Moseley is fairly competent ski ballerino: ...

    Moseley is fairly competent ski ballerino:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMg4NtjrhtY
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    Vail has a reputation among a small but vocal...

    Vail has a reputation among a small but vocal minority as an evil corporate overlord that is killing the ski industry with its near-sighted pursuit of short-term profits. I have no strong opinion on...
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    True, but this type of retiree is probably just...

    True, but this type of retiree is probably just as hard to capture (unless it's by one of the major multi-passes). If you like chasing storms and skiing a variety of mountains, you're probably...
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    I agree with this. I see senior discounts as a...

    I agree with this. I see senior discounts as a nice hold-over from an era when the culture cared more about the elderly than profit. I don't see Vail as likely to perpetuate that sentiment.
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    Agreed. And if you're the rare itinerant skier...

    Agreed. And if you're the rare itinerant skier who is not a regular at any particular resort by the time you qualify for a discounted senior pass, you probably have other priorities that outweigh...
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    I am skeptical that many people make decisions on...

    I am skeptical that many people make decisions on where to ski based on whether grandma and grandpa can get a cheap pass. I am skeptical that even grandma and grandpa are making decisions on where...
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    I always found it strange that anyone would. ...

    I always found it strange that anyone would. Mid-week passes makes sense to me, but I fail to see the rationale for subsidizing the cost of elderly people's skiing.
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    My post was ambiguous. I did not mean I wouldn't...

    My post was ambiguous. I did not mean I wouldn't be surprised if _all of the lifetime pass-holders_ moved their business. I meant that I would not be surprised if some lifetime pass-holders took...
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    Agreed. Particularly for a company with market...

    Agreed. Particularly for a company with market cap of nearly $10B. I wouldn't be surprised if they lost more pass sales than they gain with such a move. Lifetime pass-holders probably have family...
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    True. But it can be amusing even now and then to...

    True. But it can be amusing even now and then to see adults decked out in the caps and jerseys of their favorite sports heroes.
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    One of the perks of living in Manhattan is not...

    One of the perks of living in Manhattan is not being surrounded by the type of people for whom the performance of the local professional sports franchises matter.
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    :beer: I kid, I kid. Visitors from fly-over...

    :beer: I kid, I kid. Visitors from fly-over country are great - who else is going to keep the fake monks and raggedy elmos busy in Times Square?
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    Harsh, but true. Like how the tourons from out...

    Harsh, but true. Like how the tourons from out there come to Manhattan and clog up the streets and subways with their salt-of-the-earth lard, spending 99% of their time horsing down the specials at...
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    Along with the brutal grooming policies that...

    Along with the brutal grooming policies that east-coast experts demand from their resorts! Vail is going to need a uniform product that appeals to its (now) largest demographic, after all.
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    ID One tells customers that its skis don't need...

    ID One tells customers that its skis don't need to be waxed. Anyone notice other manufacturers doing this? The only time it ever really occurs to me that maybe I ought to have my skis waxed is on...
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    That would be nice. My guess is that at most...

    That would be nice. My guess is that at most they'll do some hand-waiving about how they'd like to do it, but it's just too hard for them to figure out when Peak passes were purchased and what the...
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    Or maybe they could run it as a separate luxury...

    Or maybe they could run it as a separate luxury destination without the private club element. The basic infrastructure is already there. Market is as a high-end spa with skiing for the kids. ...
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