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    So I take it that the “rumor” is that SV is...

    So I take it that the “rumor” is that SV is selling Sugarbush.


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    This is what you said: Nowhere did I say...

    This is what you said:



    Nowhere did I say that the EB-5 program was some altruistic thing. You say that the motive of these investors was to get a green card and the implication is that they...
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    The arguments you and others raise are: (a) they...

    The arguments you and others raise are: (a) they are foreign investors who were not interested in making a ROI and the fact that they got swindled is tough shit; and/or (b) these investors SHOULD...
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    The argument you and others raise is that they...

    The argument you and others raise is that they SHOULD have expected to lose their money because these are high-risk investments and the investor's primary goal was the green card. Here, that...
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    These still are an at-risk investment subject to...

    These still are an at-risk investment subject to various regulations. And yes there was some expectation of some return. Were returns guaranteed? Of course not. It seems that a lot of folks here...
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    This is a program that allows foreign investors...

    This is a program that allows foreign investors to make at-risk investments in job-creating projects in impoverished areas with the benefit of green card status, provided that the investment does...
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    That still does not justify fraud. Fraud...

    That still does not justify fraud.



    Fraud is not one of those risks.



    Again, you clearly are out of your element on this one. I don't know why you are saying so much about a...
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    No doubt that will be Bernie's next move. :lol:

    No doubt that will be Bernie's next move. :lol:
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    $129 was Snowbird's holiday rate last season FWIW.

    $129 was Snowbird's holiday rate last season FWIW.
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    You clearly have no idea what happened...

    You clearly have no idea what happened here....this was fraud. That is not an "accepted risk" for investors.
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    Earl Holding, not Leon Hess, owned Sinclair and...

    Earl Holding, not Leon Hess, owned Sinclair and Snowbasin (and Sun Valley). He was in both oil and resort/hospitality industries.


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  12. IIRC that lot is pretty big. And often not close...

    IIRC that lot is pretty big. And often not close to full.
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    The VT Digger story with a link to the actual...

    The VT Digger story with a link to the actual decision:

    https://vtdigger.org/2019/10/04/vermont-supreme-court-reverses-dismissal-of-eb-5-investor-lawsuit/
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    Wow. That is a surprise.

    Wow. That is a surprise.
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    Yes. The beauty of an independent judiciary. ...

    Yes. The beauty of an independent judiciary.


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    https://vtdigger.org/2019/10/01/feds-affirm-decisi...

    https://vtdigger.org/2019/10/01/feds-affirm-decision-to-close-vermont-eb-5-regional-center/

    Some quotes:
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    https://www.vpr.org/post/sale-ski-resorts-includin...

    https://www.vpr.org/post/sale-ski-resorts-including-vts-mount-snow-benefits-owners-purdue-pharma
  18. So for some odd reason, I spent the $1.00 or so...

    So for some odd reason, I spent the $1.00 or so for insurance at the time of ordering that was offered by a company called Route. So glad I did. The retailer, who previously had been awesome,...
  19. Looks like mine arrives tomorrow!!! Sent...

    Looks like mine arrives tomorrow!!!


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    The "Sugarbush Thread"

    ???

    Yeah, you can’t leave us hanging....


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  21. Nice!

    Nice!
  22. Fingers crossed for you. My last shipment with...

    Fingers crossed for you. My last shipment with Fed Ex was sent out the day after Labor Day. I still have yet to get it. It was coming from New Orleans Louisiana. The store has no idea WTF...
  23. The shipping label for mine was printed at...

    The shipping label for mine was printed at least....


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    Right. There was a private toll road proposal in...

    Right. There was a private toll road proposal in NNE recently IIRC. That got shot down.
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    :lol: Yep.

    Getting to your point, completely agree that POWDR skiers and riders have suffered a lot and now it is great to see that some major upgrades are coming.

    POWDR is John's baby. ...
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