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    Well, they'd better get in that action or they...

    Well, they'd better get in that action or they are SOL.
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    Back on topic. An alternative proposal: ...

    Back on topic.

    An alternative proposal:

    https://liftblog.com/2020/06/30/landowner-proposes-alternate-little-cottonwood-canyon-gondola/
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    As I figured, the issue was payments Liftopia...

    As I figured, the issue was payments Liftopia owed through the Mountain Collective deal. This article revealed that Aspen was the "managing partner" of that program.
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    You should make that point to them in public...

    You should make that point to them in public comment. I'm serious. Things are far from normal right now.
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    One Wasatch is not a public project; that is a...

    One Wasatch is not a public project; that is a joint-effort between the private resorts (or at least once was a project). No real movement on it lately.
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    Well, tell us how you really feel.... Sent...

    Well, tell us how you really feel....


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    You mean vote for Gondola?

    You mean vote for Gondola?
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    As for us, wife is renewing her IKON. My...

    As for us, wife is renewing her IKON.

    My daughter and I are renewing Alta/Bird. We get IKON Base passes included this year. Not a bad deal, but I am now part of the "problem."
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    With the previous ownership, I would have taken...

    With the previous ownership, I would have taken this at face value. But with this regime I will believe it when I see it.
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    I may not pick Utah though for that reason. Our...

    I may not pick Utah though for that reason. Our numbers are up but the State has not done jack shit.
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    I always loved going up there this time of year. ...

    I always loved going up there this time of year. It was so much fun. Way to get at it.
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    I think that is being very optimistic as to...

    I think that is being very optimistic as to timing.

    I seriously think that the way things are going that we are going to not have a ski season in the traditional sense out here. We have barely...
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    I wonder if these are Mountain Collective Resorts...

    I wonder if these are Mountain Collective Resorts who never got their $$$ back.
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    Again, Liftopia is staying in business. They’re...

    Again, Liftopia is staying in business. They’re planning on reorganization. It’s just the creditors want their money.


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    Sure. Anyone who is owed money wants it. ...

    Sure. Anyone who is owed money wants it. Especially in these uncertain times.
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    That is true.

    That is true.
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    Right, but with the market controlled by two big...

    Right, but with the market controlled by two big players, I expect prices to rise as well. Less competition.
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    Looks like they are going to reorganize.

    Looks like they are going to reorganize.
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    Creditors Force Liftopia into Bankruptcy

    Looks like Boyne, Alterra, A-Basin, Aspen, and others want their $3 million from Liftopia.


    https://businessbankruptcies.com/cases/liftopia-inc
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    Exactly Sent from my iPhone using...

    Exactly


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    I can tell you that I am hearing A LOT of ads now...

    I can tell you that I am hearing A LOT of ads now for IKON and EPIC. I think that, for multiple reasons, their pass sales are pretty dismal.

    I feel badly for the smaller places. I don't think...
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    As to the Vermont response to COVID: it is what...

    As to the Vermont response to COVID: it is what it is. We have multiple pages/threads on the debate as to this. The big issues with Vermont are (a) limited hospital capacity, and (b) older...
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    I didn't believe it either. But the article...

    I didn't believe it either. But the article says:



    That's crazy. And if it is true, I think this plays a role in the owner's woes.
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    The "Sugarbush Thread"

    $49 an hour to wait tables?!

    And most of her anger was towards the legislature.


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  25. Yesterday’s temps were in the 40’s here in SLC. ...

    Yesterday’s temps were in the 40’s here in SLC. 12.5” of snow up at Alta from the storm.


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