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    Now there's a guy who knew how to avoid the...

    Now there's a guy who knew how to avoid the crowds.
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    If you're an eastern skier bitching about either...

    If you're an eastern skier bitching about either Park City or Vail, you clearly don't appreciate your time out west enough.
  3. This is precisely why I recommended it. Best...

    This is precisely why I recommended it. Best place in the Poconos for beginners. I still go there maybe once every 2 or 3 years if they get a big storm. With plenty of snow I think the place is...
  4. XC skiing in the Poconos? Wow, you really are...

    XC skiing in the Poconos? Wow, you really are snowptimistic. Dont bet on it.
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    I agree there's no reason to stay in downtown...

    I agree there's no reason to stay in downtown SLC, were I to stay on the Front I'd go with Sandy or Cottonwood Heights. But I think there's quite a bit to do in SLC from the science center to the...
  6. December in the Poconos is likely not going to be...

    December in the Poconos is likely not going to be great (although you never know), so your suspicion that January will have better odds for conditions is correct.

    Given the skiers are never-evers,...
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    It's definitely worth staying a few days in Park...

    It's definitely worth staying a few days in Park City given you've never been.

    As for your stay on the Wasatch Front, there are so many AirBNB & VRBO places in this area that you will find much...
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    Yes, Vail is awesome. BSB is a lonely playground...

    Yes, Vail is awesome. BSB is a lonely playground worthy of the day by itself. There's plenty of great stuff at Vail, you need to find a local or a friendly employee if you had a bad time.



    I...
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    Yeah, easterners who claim the skiing at Vail is...

    Yeah, easterners who claim the skiing at Vail is "lame" or "too easy" or insert _______ pejorative, are just trying to make themselves sound like the God of Expert Skiing.
  10. I mean, as far as boondoggle's go, this is...

    I mean, as far as boondoggle's go, this is clearly pretty boondoggleley.



    ONE Wasatch needs to happen. I'm 100% convinced that the marketing advantage this would confer would be worth...
  11. Yes, and there's already some roads going in. ...

    Yes, and there's already some roads going in. When I was there a few months back I was wondering WTH was going to go in there, now I know.
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    Thanks for reminding me to sell. I held it a bit...

    Thanks for reminding me to sell. I held it a bit in hopes Alterra might trump them, but that's not likely now, and all it will take is one crunchy politician using the M word and SKIS will plummet...
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    No, he's correct. The Windham crowd are the...

    No, he's correct. The Windham crowd are the yuppies & rich folks who dont care that much about the skiing, but wish to be pampered.
  14. ^From one of TTB's linked articles: So yeah,...

    ^From one of TTB's linked articles:

    So yeah, a ski resort is just a necessary evil here, and methinks that doesn't bode well for the quality of the ski offerings, but hopefully I'll be wrong...
  15. I think "trash" is a wee-bit of an overstatement,...

    I think "trash" is a wee-bit of an overstatement, but the level of construction build going on right now is positively staggering, and I would 100% agree, alarming.

    My wife & I were there 4...
  16. I wonder what the demand is for 1,000 foot...

    I wonder what the demand is for 1,000 foot vertical ski area is in the Wasatch? That's basically Blue Mountain in the Poconos or Plattekill in the Catskills, but dumped into the largest ski mecca in...
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    A big part of Vail's business strategy is that...

    A big part of Vail's business strategy is that there are no deals.

    BOGOs disappear, ski club days will either go away or slowly diminish (boiling frog style), no more fun discount days, etc...
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    That is interesting, but not terribly surprising...

    That is interesting, but not terribly surprising as the deal has not closed. I suspect that if you buy legacy Peak Resorts tickets today, Vail will indeed have to honor those tickets.
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    Ugh... I recoil when I hear Mount Snow & Okemo...

    Ugh... I recoil when I hear Mount Snow & Okemo mentioned as "big boys" in Vermont, but using skier visits & top-line revenue as a guide, it's undeniably true. Another useful reminder that this...
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    I thought that's what you were talking about? It...

    I thought that's what you were talking about? It is what I was referring to.
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    I agree with AdironRider that Vail Resorts...

    I agree with AdironRider that Vail Resorts certainly did not make this acquisition without its' fair share of due diligence, but that's not to say that it wasnt a mistake, only time will tell. ...
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    This is the correct answer. All the "analysis"...

    This is the correct answer. All the "analysis" going on in this thread is just overthinking a simple business decision by Vail that is tone-deaf at best. And it comes from Katz. He has an almost...
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    In general, assuming conditions are fine, I would...

    In general, assuming conditions are fine, I would rather ski at Loveland, Plattekill, Magic, or Smuggler's Notch than at a major ski resort.
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    Savvy travelers know that LGA is an absolute "no...

    Savvy travelers know that LGA is an absolute "no go" from January through March. Two snowflakes will shut down the entire airport.
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    I can only speak for JetBlue out of Newark, but I...

    I can only speak for JetBlue out of Newark, but I would call their operational efficiency out of EWR, quality of airplanes, service, etc... every bit as solid as the majors (Delta, United, American,...
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