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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by BenedictGomez View Post
    First, I would recommend EVERY beginner time skier take a proper lesson. For the first time, I'd recommend a group lesson, as it instills the thought that "everyone is having the same issues as me", and they get through those first fish-out-of-water moments on the hill together in a fun and safe learning environment.

    Secondly, even an expert skier who has never given lessons isnt very adept at teaching skiing. There's a wee-bit more to it than "snow plow" and "turn side to side" and "Oh you're going too fast? Just fall", like you said. Yeah....no.

    Third, you've never taken a 1st-time on skis girlfriend skiing, I know this from your post! lol
    actually, Like Ive said a couple times already, I taught my GF ( now wife) how to ski....and she does just fine. If you saw her, or myself ski you wouldnt say "oh I bet they never took lessons". Im confused. I grew up an athlete....I never needed any lessons. Why is this if its "so important" to take them as everyone is implying? Seruious question......not asking it do be a dick. As far as the terms I used....sorry if they arent in the ski instructor text book. They may not be correct, but you know what I meant.....And isnt it really that simple? turn from one side to the other, learn the snow plow....practice accordingly. Im talking about doing all this on the bunny slopes & greens people.....not corbetts. Once you gain confidence, try different angles & slopes....and where I sit....falling on your butt certainly beats running right off the trail into a tree if you panic or arent confident on stopping.




    SIDENOTE: when it came to skiing, me, my friends ^& my wife always kinda just "got it" I guess.... Upon further review.....I guess this isnt the case with everyone. Sorry for the ignorant frame of mind. I am not saying these things to come off as an arrogant assh*le. If you feel lessons will benefit you or your family, by all means go get them. Happy skiing.
    Last edited by BLESS; Feb 4, 2012 at 5:09 AM.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by BLESS View Post
    I have a wife....who I also taught how to ski.
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  3. #83
    I think any advanced skier can easily give lessons to their spouse or kids. It's the question of whether they want to or not. I'm sure most parents use the ski schools more like a day care. I've never taken a lesson for anything. I was raised on the "just get out and do it" methods. You do not need formal education for everything. I think that if a beginner goes with an advanced skier, or even upper intermediate, there should be no need for lessons. Basics are basics, and learning to ski is just observation. My uncle first got me into skiing. He gave me a good run down of the basics. I did a little reading on the technical aspects of skiing and did a lot of watching and that was it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLESS View Post
    short life? Do you know how old I am? Ive taught several people to both ski & golf.
    So you believe in taking lessons? But only from untrained amateurs as yourself? How did you learn to ski? Who taught you? You mention being an athlete. What did you do? Again no training?

    I mentioned short life because you seemed to answer from no experience. You seem to have plenty of experience and aren't afraid to spread it around. You're either over confident or very good (no doubt you choose the latter).

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Abubob View Post
    So you believe in taking lessons? But only from untrained amateurs as yourself? How did you learn to ski? Who taught you? You mention being an athlete. What did you do? Again no training?

    I mentioned short life because you seemed to answer from no experience. You seem to have plenty of experience and aren't afraid to spread it around. You're either over confident or very good (no doubt you choose the latter).
    Like i said.....i dont think everyone needs to take lessons to learn how to ski. Some people may.....but i didnt. Nor did my wife or friends. I didnt need lessons to learn how to play golf either....and im a pretty fine golfer. These sports came naturally to me....as they also do to other people. I already said this but ill say it again.....if you feel that you or your family will benefit from lessons, then by all means go for it. But i think its unnecessary to crucify somene who doesnt see the need. As far as being taught by other people, i certainly was.....for the team sports i played. The individual ones i picked up easily on my own. Of course, the " untrained amateurs" gave me some pointers.....they were good enough. If me learning to ski on my own is being " over confident" then so be it. Not sure what im " spreading around" besides my opinion, which of course are based on my personal experiences. Im sorry if it offends you that my wife and i didnt need lessons to learn how to ski.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLESS View Post
    Like i said.....i dont think everyone needs to take lessons to learn how to ski. Some people may.....but i didnt. Nor did my wife or friends. I didnt need lessons to learn how to play golf either....and im a pretty fine golfer. These sports came naturally to me....as they also do to other people. I already said this but ill say it again.....if you feel that you or your family will benefit from lessons, then by all means go for it. But i think its unnecessary to crucify somene who doesnt see the need. As far as being taught by other people, i certainly was.....for the team sports i played. The individual ones i picked up easily on my own. Of course, the " untrained amateurs" gave me some pointers.....they were good enough. If me learning to ski on my own is being " over confident" then so be it. Not sure what im " spreading around" besides my opinion, which of course are based on my personal experiences. Im sorry if it offends you that my wife and i didnt need lessons to learn how to ski.
    You said, "WHO THE F&CK takes lessons?" then you say, "As far as being taught by other people, i certainly was.....for the team sports i played."

    Would you have been as good at what ever you were coached in if you were self taught? I doubt it.

    Taking lessons is the same as being coached and it makes people better skiers faster and they enjoy the sport that much more. While all ski instructors vary in their own abilities to teach and coach they are all trained to do just that. You shouldn't dismiss taking ski lessons so easily.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by BLESS View Post
    i dont think everyone needs to take lessons to learn how to ski. Some people may.....but i didnt. Nor did my wife or friends. I didnt need lessons to learn how to play golf either....and im a pretty fine golfer. These sports came naturally to me..
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  8. #88
    Come on folks, lighten up on Bless. Okay, he's good at a few things, and it seems to come naturally enough for him and he enjoys what he does. There is nothing wrong with that. I wish many things come to me like that (Actually, some do, for which I am thankful). There are many things that I am fairly good at and enjoy doing just fine.

    There's hiking and backpacking, no lessons.

    Biking, no lessons.

    Swimming, I did take lessons, Dad was in the Navy and kept signing me up.

    Canoeing and kayaking (Love kayaking). No lessons. Haven't done more than class 2 rapids, no white water kayak.

    Baseball, had some little league coaching, but played ball long before that.

    Carpentry, I am a pretty good carpenter since 1976. I did take 2 years of voc ed for it.

    Plumbing and electrical, just followed the lead of the licensed guys and paid attention, no classes.

    Drywall, just watched and practiced.

    Painting, same as drywall.

    Look at your own lives. Many things you did because you had a knack for it, others, you emulated others, and other things you got some kind of training. We've all got "it" in some areas of our lives and don't have "it" in other areas. Do we really need a pissing match about who has "it" in skiing?
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  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by uphillklimber View Post
    Come on folks, lighten up on Bless. Okay, he's good at a few things, and it seems to come naturally enough for him and he enjoys what he does. There is nothing wrong with that.
    If he'd said, "Athletics come naturally to me, and luckily I also have a knack for teaching others," no one would've cared. But of course, such a statement would have been so unremarkable that he likely wouldn't've said it.

    Instead, he said, ""WHO THE F&CK takes lessons?" And this is the same guy who said, "Am I way off in thinking that getting down the greens, blues and blacks were really the easy part of skiing?" This suggests, not merely that he is good at it himself, but that he basically has no f&cking clue what is going on with anyone else.

    But this phenomenon is not unknown among skiers. Our original poster sounds like he is pretty good at skiing, but thought he could teach his GF, and wound up doing everything wrong. No one is vilifying him, but it's just kinda funny.
    Last edited by oakapple; Feb 5, 2012 at 6:47 AM.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by uphillklimber View Post
    Come on folks, lighten up on Bless. Okay, he's good at a few things, and it seems to come naturally enough for him and he enjoys what he does. There is nothing wrong with that. I wish many things come to me like that (Actually, some do, for which I am thankful). There are many things that I am fairly good at and enjoy doing just fine.

    There's hiking and backpacking, no lessons.

    Biking, no lessons.

    Swimming, I did take lessons, Dad was in the Navy and kept signing me up.

    Canoeing and kayaking (Love kayaking). No lessons. Haven't done more than class 2 rapids, no white water kayak.

    Baseball, had some little league coaching, but played ball long before that.

    Carpentry, I am a pretty good carpenter since 1976. I did take 2 years of voc ed for it.

    Plumbing and electrical, just followed the lead of the licensed guys and paid attention, no classes.

    Drywall, just watched and practiced.

    Painting, same as drywall.

    Look at your own lives. Many things you did because you had a knack for it, others, you emulated others, and other things you got some kind of training. We've all got "it" in some areas of our lives and don't have "it" in other areas. Do we really need a pissing match about who has "it" in skiing?
    ahhhh someone else who gets it, thank you. Now if you told me that you were going to give me a million dollars to solve some basic algebra or geometry problems....I couldnt do it. Agreed, we all have things we're good at, and things we're not.

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