Snowboarder hits kid, kids father punches snowboarder (video)

dmc · Dec 5, 2013

I refuse to even watch this bs... Surprised you even posted this...

This place is weighted way too heavy with skiers to even get involved.....
F that...

Huck_It_Baby · Dec 5, 2013

Stache said:
He does. That is why he posted this and is tying to preemptively build his defense for when he has the collision with someone in front of him.

Two wrongs don't make a right. In fact it usually makes something twice as bad. Dad is (justifiably) guilty of assault.

Boarder is guilty of "Speed too fast for conditions." Way too often folks pass other folks at speed far in excess of the 110% rule. You should only be travelling 10% faster than the person you are overtaking. In an area with multiple threats (targets) not more than 10% faster than the slowest one.
Rule #1 is #1 for a reason, it is the most important. It very clearly puts the responsibility on folks to slide in a manner that they do not crash into anything.
Rules #3 & #4 are more for self preservation than assigning blame.

What I preach and teach to my ski school students, "There is a WORLD of difference between 'not meaning' to do something and MEANING NOT to do something."

Stache you have a page on your site perfect for this discussion!

http://thestache.tripod.com/id14.html

thetrailboss · Dec 5, 2013

Huck_It_Baby said:
Stache you have a page on your site perfect for this discussion!

http://thestache.tripod.com/id14.html

Seems simple and to the point. Makes sense to me.

And I think the real danger is not just beginner trails, but trails that have others funnel into them and in which there are folks of varying degrees of skill on them. That's where you have to be careful. A lot of trails have beginner slopes/learning areas at the bottoms of them such that advanced skiers coming down the mountain have to go through that area. Think Jay's Interstate/Metro Quad area. It is just the runout from the terrain above.

deadheadskier · Dec 5, 2013

dmc said:
I refuse to even watch this bs... Surprised you even posted this...

This place is weighted way too heavy with skiers to even get involved.....
F that...

chill

not a skier vs snowboarder debate

unless you choose to elect it one

mriceyman · Dec 5, 2013

Nick said:
I'm a new dad. I would be instantly thinking did my kid break a leg? Worse? I would definitely freak out. Again, I HOPE I wouldn't hit the kid.

I'm hoping that you/I would at least see if my kid is ok first before catching a ski and bashing the kid with it. :dontknow:

Highway Star · Dec 5, 2013

thetrailboss said:
Watch out for someone doing mandatory GS turns.

I understand them quite fine, thank you. And I don't cause any problems on the slopes personally.

Well, since I haven't hit anyone nor been run into in 800+ ski days, I'd have to say I'm doing pretty well, thank you very much. I also ski very fast pretty often, on weekends, at a mountain that can get pretty busy at times. I see lots and lots of people not observing the code, and I will stop and point it out to them as needed. Or just yell "Don't stop in the middle of the &*%$@# trail!!!" as I ski by.

GNU 4 LIFE · Dec 5, 2013

Snowboarders fault no control as for the dad the boarder was wearing a helmet and he made his point.

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andrec10 · Dec 5, 2013

I have to say the snowboarder was in the wrong, but still does not give the father the right to hit the kid!

thetrailboss · Dec 5, 2013

mriceyman said:
I'm hoping that you/I would at least see if my kid is ok first before catching a ski and bashing the kid with it.

Again, not that it changes much, but the Dad slapped the kid with his hand, not a ski.

thetrailboss · Dec 5, 2013

Highway Star said:
I see lots and lots of people not observing the code, and I will stop and point it out to them as needed. Or just yell "Don't stop in the middle of the &*%$@# trail!!!" as I ski by.

Who made you the Sheriff?

skiberg · Dec 5, 2013

Pretty obvious snowboarder was wrong. He almost took out the young girl skier as well just prior to hitting the kid. I think what caused the accident is that the kid was obscured by the father and you cant really see him until last second. But they were downhill, its the uphill skiers job to use caution especially on a crowded slope

Highway Star · Dec 5, 2013

thetrailboss said:
Who made you the Sheriff?

It is perfectly within my rights as a skier to make people aware that they are not following the code.

Edd · Dec 5, 2013

deadheadskier said:
chill

not a skier vs snowboarder debate

Seriously, it's not even close to that. The form of transit is irrelevant.

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thetrailboss · Dec 5, 2013

Highway Star said:
It is perfectly within my rights as a skier to make people aware that they are not following the code.

That's interesting! So you're kind of like this woman:

FWIW the Code is meant to be aspirational more than anything else.

MadMadWorld · Dec 5, 2013

Highway Star said:
Well, since I haven't hit anyone nor been run into in 800+ ski days, I'd have to say I'm doing pretty well, thank you very much. I also ski very fast pretty often, on weekends, at a mountain that can get pretty busy at times. I see lots and lots of people not observing the code, and I will stop and point it out to them as needed. Or just yell "Don't stop in the middle of the &*%$@# trail!!!" as I ski by.

You are the hall monitor of skiing.

Edd · Dec 5, 2013

thetrailboss said:
That's interesting! So you're kind of like this woman:

Couldn't finish watching that for various reasons, not the least of which is that it's shot in portrait mode, which is a more heinous crime than driving slow in the left lane.

thetrailboss · Dec 5, 2013

MadMadWorld said:
You are the hall monitor of skiing.

:lol:

Yeah, exactly!

thetrailboss · Dec 5, 2013

Edd said:
Couldn't finish watching that for various reasons, not the least of which is that it's shot in portrait mode, which is a more heinous crime than driving slow in the left lane.

I just listened to it and it is so damn funny.

MadMadWorld · Dec 5, 2013

You learn something new every day......George Zimmerman = the head of the moral police.

thetrailboss · Dec 5, 2013

MadMadWorld said:
You learn something new every day......George Zimmerman = the head of the moral police.

I was going to say that it sounds like our buddy HS is a mandatory GS turnmaking George Zimmerman of Killington. Watch out...there might be a citizen's arrest if you don't look over your shoulder to be sure that he is not coming up behind you on the flats.....

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